Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

Well he could have stayed at super middle and fought either Benn, McClellan, Eubank and Collins instead he moved up to fight a weak title holder in a 41 year old McCallum and even at light heavy he never fought his top rival in DM.

He could have stayed at heavy and maybe fought Byrd but chose to go back down and fight Tarver which was seen as an easier fight.

He agreed and signed to fight Buster Douglas on May the 2nd 1998 but pulled out 2 months prior to the bout and fought Hill instead.

3 examples of Jones Jr choosing the path of least resistance. His resume wasn't horrible in fact it's actually pretty decent but after Toney he started getting paid well and became risk adverse. Compared to paths of fighters like Froch, Pac, De La Hoya he definitely choose an easier path when he had the option to.

 

Did it ever occur to you that he couldnt comfortably make SMW anymore?

Or manybe he wanted to win titles in different divisions?

In what way is fighting a washed up Douglas considered a bigger fight than a HOF'er like Hill?

 

Joe Calzaghe - "I'm not chasing after Roy Jones"

If Joe wanted to fight Jones then why didn't do the most basic thing you need to do first - start fighting in the same weight division as him.

Unless of course Joe was expected Jones, the P4P World number 1 superstar, to move down in weight and travel half way round the World to fight him at Cardiff Ice rink for 15 grand for his beloved WBO strap on. The likes of Charles Brewer or Tocker Pudwill might have been happy to do this, but Jones was a little bit different

 

I remember reading a magazine once, in the barbers, around '04.

It had an interview with Calzaghe in there.

He claimed he could beat the current Mike Tyson 'because he doesnt look too good'

He claimed he could knock out 5 guys in one go, because Hatton said he could do 3-4 and "I am bigger than Ricky"

 

Not surprised there either. When you're unknown and will remain unknown you can say whatever the hell you want because you know no one will remember it to criticize you.

 

One of the oldest tricks in the book, call someone out, mention their name really loudly.

If they dont respond, it makes you look like you actually wanted the fight.

Foreman did the same thing with Tyson.

 

The fact that he went to HW at all shows that he didnt take the path of least resistance.

If Kovalev went up and beat Povetkin, and then went back down to LHW, would you moan that he didnt stick around and fight Klitschko?

 

Did you see the Calzaghe/Jones 24/7?

Theres a quick clip there where Enzo is taking him on the pads and then looks at the camera and says 'You're looking at the greatest boxer, ever'.

At the Hopkins press conference Calzaghe said, 'No disrespect to Henry Cooper, but my style is more Ali's than Coopers'. To which someone seems to burst out laughing

 

Oh I remember the 24/7 alright, that was his first and last 24/7 and he made the most out of it. Remember the last episode(which is aired literally a day before the fight) when he and his father were running and they bumped into random people and openly told them "We're fighting Roy Jones tomorrow night, tune in!". The randoms looked surprised and said "Oh come on, you're not fighting crap man, haha" and walked right off. :rofl

 

and yet its much more than that.

It the equivalanet of Canelo going up and beating Povetkin.

yet some muthafcukers gotta ice skate uphill by trying to suggest jones was taking the least path.

 

basically destroys the thread by exposing its lie.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

He never truly wanted Roy.

 

Joe had the skill, but not the will.

He'll always be Hatton in reverse to me.

Ricky's skills didn't match his ambition.

Whereas Joe's ambition, didn't match his skills.

 

Frank desperately wanted the Manfredo fight, because it gave Joe some more U.S. exposure.

Manfredo was popular in the U.S. from the very popular Contender show.

So I could see why they chose it. It made more sense at the time.


But here are two things that bother me:

1. A fighter as good as Joe, should never have been in that position in the first place. He should never have been fighting a novice who came second in the series, to gain U.S. exposure at 35, just because he hadn't cracked the U.S. earlier. It was embarrassing.

2. Fans of Joe's will share my view that Manfredo made more sense at the time, due to circumstances, but at the same time, will refuse to acknowledge that other fighters also had certain circumstances surrounding them. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me.

It was ok when Joe said he wasn't interested in Tarver.

It was ok when Joe wasn't interested in Froch.

But it's not ok, that Roy wasn't interested in Joe?

Again, every fighter has a different set of circumstances surrounding them.


Roy wanted nothing to do with Joe and Steve Collins.

Steve Collins wanted nothing to do with Joe.

Again, Joe wanted nothing to do with Froch.

At the moment, it appears that Froch wants nothing to do with Degale.


And the list goes on.

 

I agree, fighters have their own goals and targets and they might not necessarily be what fans want or even managers and promoters.

Froch wants a big money goodbye fight in Vegas, no disrepect but he doesnt give two shits about Degale.

I agree on the Manfredo thing, it got Calzaghe some exposure, however if he was really that desperate why not chase fights with Pavlik, Dawson and Taylor to a lesser extent.

Pavlik and Dawson were ready and available fights for Calzaghe.