JMM's increased emphasis on weightlifting was the reason why he was able to KO6 Pac.

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    It was documented that he was placed a lot of emphasis on weight training in preparation for their 4th fight.

    He was also knocking sparring partners down with that same exact shot. Jolt right counter.

    Amazing shot.

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  2. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice try dumbass
    It was hiring Memo Heredia (who has an extensive history with PEDs) and JMM started getting steroid acne as a result.
     
  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Prove it *******. :deal

    It was the weight training, DEAL WITH IT. :yep
     
  4. Mr_Harry

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    khan would beat the hell out of both pac and marquez
     
  5. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a perfectly timed, straight right, bang on the button with a a guy coming forward from a guy with 40 odd ko's already on his record

    He was setting Paq up for that shot the whole fight

    Had nothing to with any new training tactics/ anything else that is implied
     
  6. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    I agree, an amazing shot! Would have KO'd Floyd and Danny Garcia as well. Amazing performance by Marquez :clap:
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Weight training alone doesn't result in all the acne he had on his chest, big doses of androgenic compounds will though. That combined with his hiring of Memo Heredia and the changes in his body composition and increased power makes the whole thing highly suspicious.
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    rioded to the gills.

    Still a fantastic shot and Pac was way out of position.
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Adult acne is actually quite prevalent believe it or not.

    Not everyone who develops adult acne is a juicer.

    If you want to accuse JMM, then Pac is also very very suspicious due to the abnormal size of the man's head and the shakes that he was consuming on the daily.
     
  10. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How often do you get laid? Jerking off to anti-Pac threads/***** threads does not count.
     
  11. marquez has always had to some extent manny’s number in terms of timing and counters. he just has the right style to give pacman problems, period.

    i’m f’ing tired of a guy looking more buff (he had a different S&C coach this time around, wasn’t drinking is own ****, whatever) and that means he’s on steroids.

    no more than floyd has moved up multiple weight classes since his career started, so has manny.

    those floyd and manny have moved up a pretty astounding number of weight classes as compared with marquez.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know because I have suffered from adult acne in the past myself.

    But JMM isn't just suffering from persistent adult acne but sudden adult onset acne, which usually occurs in women as it is always caused by hormonal changes and they are far more prone than men due to causes such as contraceptive pills effecting hormonal levels.

    The chances that JMM got a sudden natural surge of androgens at 39 is highly, highly unlikely. The only other likely causes are Hyperthyroidism which would result in dramatic weight loss, tremors and cardiac problems or an adrenal or testicular tumor. The most likely cause for a androgen surge would be steroids.
     
  13. MVC!

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    But you wouldn't know. The adult acne could have been there in his off-season or occurred on other places in his body.

    I'm not pretending to be naive or trolling about it, but to accuse a man randomly when he's had a clean track record his entire career up to that point is ridiculous to say the very least. I absolutely doubt he juiced.
     
  14. Estes

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    It was a perfect shot. Simple as that.

    That aside, anybody working with Heredia is almost certainly doping. It's what cycling fans might call the Ferrari principle. You simply don't hire a dirty coach and take on all the baggage that it brings unless he's offering services a respectable coach can't give you. Who needs the hassle and the rumours?
     
  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM was a walking pharmacy. It was clearly obvious when you see a guy's body composition changing that drastically at age 39. It was the talk of the town before the fight, everybody with a brain knew something was up. He had the former track and field "trainer" Memo Heredia(Real name Angel Hernandez) jamming needles up his butt so he could finally climb Mt. Pacquaio on the 4th attempt.

    After this Pac dominates the #5 p4p Bradley twice and Void jr struggles mightily to get a controversial MD over some Argentinan palooka and needs Kenny Bayless to let him hold on for dear life in the rematch.

    Now who comes out looking better there?:think