Why Aren't More People Questioning Whether Hopkins is on PED's?

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he hasnt actually got any evidence to back up his claims.

    I asked him how exactly PEDS benefitted Hopkins, because as a former fighter, i for one could not see it?

    His reply was 'Hes taking PEDS which slow down decline'.

    If that **** was actually available, wouldnt every man be taking that? athlete or not? and wouldnt such a scientific breakthrough be plastered all over the media?
     
  2. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's simple, really, you can take similar stuff than the elite gear the top professionals are using, but you still won't have them skillset, them ring savy and smartness, them bag o'tricks.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe theres a PED out there which increases IQ, ring savy, intelligence etc?

    Ah right, maybe THATS the ped OP was referring to.

    It makes sense now.
     
  4. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bhop doesn't rely on high volume punching or high levels of workrate, he is a boxing master and is very efficient. For example Pac relies heavily on his athleticism and high volume workrate. Bhop uses his skills and a well planned strategy to beat his opponents. Very much like Floyd, he doesn't waste too much energy or perform any unnecessary actions. A prime example of an inefficent boxer is Khan, he over expends and throws too many unnecessary punches.
     
  5. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I just assume he is, just as I do every other pro boxer anywhere close to the elite level. It's so easy to get away with it that they'd be stupid not to. Steroids or no steroids, though, it's amazing that Hopkins is still even fighting at this age, let alone holding titles. :deal
     
  6. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if you are juicing, how much better will it make you over your opponent? At the end of the day, a better skilled boxer will win most times. Take Pac v Marquez, Pac has an overwhelming physical advantage, yet Marquez manages to beat him. Bhop beat a young, fast and powerful Pascal, and he beat him well.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hes definitely suspect, and its understandable why. But this is a good question. Lets take it a step further. Why are no near 50 year olds able to compete in other sports with the help of PED's? Honestly, whether Nard is or isnt, his ability to not only compete but be one of the best goes far beyond any suspected cheating just like it did with Archie Moore.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It depends entirely on what you do with the improved physical traits PED's can give you.

    If you focus having increased stamina and faster recovery time into more skills work, you're going to be a more skilled fighter.

    If you focus on trying to look like a bodybuilder and that's where the extra work capacity is going, you may have some more short-term strength and/or quickness, but you're more likely to get your ass kicked.....by an opponent on PED's who puts his increased work capacity into the areas that make fighters better.

    It's not as though there's one magic PED and one set way to work out/train with them. You have to list your desired consequences, then stack different PED's in a way that is both untestable and manages the negative side effects.

    The average fighter doesn't have the knowledge or economic means to do this. They're losing the arms race to the fighters who have the backing to have experts handle it for them. Ironically enough, those fighters who have the financial backing to do it were more talented in the first place....which is exactly why they're the ones that get the backing.
     
  9. Scar

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    He's just another mentally ******ed virtual garbage.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If he's suspect we'll have a long list of senior citizens dominating or at the very least competing the way Hopkins is at the top level.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    And did i forget to mention, hes a Calzaghe fan?
    Just check his threads.

    All pro Calzaghe and anti Hopkins.

    He even had a thread which said, if Pacqiauo was the same size as Calzaghe, Calzaghe would still beat him
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's what Pacquiao said as well and I agree with both Hopkins and Pacquiao. The commission should do their job when it comes to testing as they have since forever in the sport. This nonsense of "take tests with the organization I handpick" cries controversy and idiots can't see through it.
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking at both sides of the coin this is the most compelling argument against it. :good
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    even if he is on PED's what he's doing with a 50yr old body is still amazing. PED's don't give u skill.
     
  15. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can't compare bike racing to boxing ,water & oil. The Alien is just something special. Its amazing when someone like him comes along people want to make accusation.




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