Holman Williams vs Luis Manuel Rodriguez: Greater Fighter

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  1. Flea Man

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    With Johnny Nelson ;)
     
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    Ah, yes, forgot about "The Entertainer" Nelson. :good
     
  3. Flea Man

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    As promised for the cobra

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I_7rtTHMrg[/ame]
     
  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    This is good stuff, people. I'll be checking that out soon, Flea. :thumbsup
     
  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for posting Flea! Great to see. I still thinking LMR takes some scalps in Holman's era. He would make his presence felt...Too great a fighter not to. LMR bounces in and gets his punches off so fast inside, then bounces out of range...Very difficult to fight.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Agreed, fantastic operator.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    :bump

    Burley and Williams' era is overrated. It was amazing....but not any better than the 60s.

    So in fact their era isn't overrated, but the 60s is underrated.
     
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    The chicken bit isn't as funny without the pic...
     
  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely!...I've always thought myself in the minority here.But have always thought the 60's were epic in the welter/middle ranks. Truly shark infested waters. If someone pointed a gun at me and told me to choose one...would have to go with the 40's...BUT if you would throw a LMR into the forties, he wins his share IMO. I rate LMR and Griffith probably higher that most around here...impressed with both.
     
  10. Young Terror

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    Havent seen Williams so i cant properly judge him as a fighter. As for Rodriguez he looks very good/great on film. Have to go with El Feo here.
     
  11. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post!
     
  12. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Not only is it not as funny without it, it's not funny at all without it.

    Twasn't a great bit to begin with anyway. Decent thread this one though. I don't have a whole great many of those.
     
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    It's alright. At least your ***** can still turn lead into gold.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Cheers Al!
     
  15. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    The problem with a comparison like this is the lack of footage on one side.

    boxing isn't often a sport that can support a genuinely detailed debate in light of that.Certainly in cases where it should be clear we are discussing fighters on a relatively similar level of accomplishment\ability.

    In the case of these two you don't even have the usal fall back of being able to acknowledge the pre-50s fighter would be quite a bit more proven against varying styles.

    I think it would be overwhelming hubris to go around REALLY thinking you know who is the better of the two without having seen them actually fight each other a few times.