Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll have a look.

    :lol:
     
  2. bailey

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    It is surprising they didnt want to test themselves against him in my opinion
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was away for a while with family, but whats to go mad about?
    Calzaghe was just saying how he was avoided, which true fans know anyway
     
  4. bailey

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    Calzaghe is there for his wins. I said if Hopkins beats Kovalev, it will show he isnt far behind Calzaghe. Thats if he wins.
    Hopkins has longevity and is a 2 weight world champ who has beaten some good fighters. No he doesnt have Eubank, undefeated Kessler or himself on his resume, but he does have a good overall resume. This is why Calzaghe is above
     
  5. Imperial1

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    There he is :lol:
     
  6. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just because I rated Calzaghe highly?

    He is That good.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That was aimed at AngloSaxon sorry
    Before you brag about your so called infinite boxing knowledge take another look at some of the posts you've made?? You may change your mind.
    Ive been in & around the sport both in & out of the ring for nearly 35 yrs. I don't know it all by far & I know you don't.
    I was sat next to Eddie Papa Smurf Futch he was in his early 80's then I believe, they introduced him as Eddie Futch BOXING EXPERT !!! Eddie grinned looked at me & said "Boxing expert "? "I'm still learning the game" lol
    Take a pointer from one of the greatest trainers ever be modest don't brag It'll only come back to haunt you:hi:
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Oh BTW this is one of the posts I was referring to

    You claim a boxer that is incapable of throwing a legitimate scoring punch is "highly rated & that good" Also if you really think he deserved the decision over Hopkins ? I rest my case
     
  9. Exposed

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    Hopkins career is Hopkins career, no one elses. Whoever Hopkins fights and wins/loses against makes NO effect on Calzaghe's career, because Calzaghe did NOT fight those fighters.

    That's like saying Jermain Taylor would beat Calzaghe easily, because he beat Hopkins easily while Calzaghe struggled (and many believe actually lost).

    Calzaghe arguably lost to Hopkins, and refused to give him an immediate rematch in his own turf, so history will see Hopkins continuing to build his own legacy while Calzaghe FALLS.
     
  10. Loudon

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    Yes, because he was insignificant.

    You can't boast about the number of SMW, WBO defences you've made, and then also claim that you wanted bigger fights, but were unable to get them.

    Look at his resume pre 2006.

    Why WOULD big name American fighters have wanted to fight him?

    He brought nothing to the table.

    One day you might understand.


    :good
     
  11. bailey

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    So insignificant that Jones mentioned him as a possible opponent on more than one occasion, though you like to pretend that didnt happen, possibly due to agenda?
    What big name American fighters were there around his weight other than Jones and Hopkins?
    Hopkins was talking of fighting at SMW then against B Mitchell, Jones was talking of dropping down
     
  12. bailey

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    Yep, Champs back :good
     
  13. bailey

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    Calzaghe has better wins that any Hopkins has, with wins over Eubank, undefeated Kessler and Hopkins himself.
    You forget that nobody wanted to see a rematch, possibly due to the way Calzaghe made Hopkins fade and hold and look like he was looking for time out, also not to forget Hopkins backed out of facing Calzaghe years before.
    How do you think Taylor beat Hopkins easier :lol:. I the Hopkins/Taylor fights, Hopkins finished the stronger and had Taylor hurt and on the official scorecards, Calzaghe had a bigger official lead over Hopkins in one fight than Taylor managed in two
     
  14. bailey

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    When he was holding and looking for time out?
     
  15. Loudon

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    I don't know how many times we've had this discussion.

    Look at the two words that you've typed:

    Mentioned

    Talking


    It wasn't enough.


    Do you think it's a coincidence that Roy and Hopkins didn't want to fight him in the early 00's, yet they were happy to in 2008?


    If you truly believe what you write, then you've been conned.

    I agree, that there were no big name American fighters in his division.

    That's fine.

    But he needed to to do one of two things.


    1. Either just be quiet, and continue to do what he was doing.

    2. Move out his division to seek bigger fights, like every other fighter does.


    He couldn't have expected bigger name fighters to have gone to him.

    It was HE who had to move.

    Again, it's no coincidence that when he finally moved up, he got the fights that he wanted.

    Maybe if he and Frank had been willing to have fought in the U.S. earlier at LHW, instead of expecting a MW to move up (Hopkins) and a LHW to move down (Roy) then they'd have been more successful in negotiations?

    Has that ever crossed your mind?

    Joe was in no position to be calling the shots back then.

    You can't talk of wanting the 'Crown Jewels' to fight Roy, and then go and fight Mkrtchyan and Salem.


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