Fighters who's short stature helped them.

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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    For a change this is a pro Marciano thread!

    Marciano was short for a Heavyweight and ss we all know, Rocky made himself even shorter by employing the crouch and he did it like no-one else i can think of which got me thinking.....

    Would he have been as effective if he were taller and i have to say no.
    Being taller and fighting taller would have, imo, worked in a negative way for him as that crouch allowed him to slip a lot of punches and fire off those haymakers when in close.

    Did anyone else benefit from being vertically challenged or is Rocky a one off in this department?
     
  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dwight Qawi would also fit into this category. He used his disadvantage well employing it with a bob that got him under fighter's punches. I remember the Rossman fight well. Mike rarely touched him.
     
  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Good call and i suppose we can include Tyson to a degree.

    How about the lower weights?...Pac maybe?
     
  4. rossco666

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    Armstrong short hight along with his head movement had opponents hitting nothing but air. He would dig his head into his opponents chest and drive them back. Phenomenal little fighter.

    Jimmy Wilde slight frame gave him the ability to ghost in and out of range against bigger, stronger men. Hence the nickname 'Will-o'-the wisp'. He's famed for his devastating power but he was also elusive as hell and a clever, clever counter puncher/sharp shooter. Very patient, very accurate and very deadly. One of the greatest finishers in the history of the sport and he was built like a ten year old girl. His frame probably gave his opponents the confidence to try and bully him but they couldn't get to him and if they made a mistake they would be sent to the canvas in a flash.
     
  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rather than say "a fighters short stature helped them" I think it's more accurate to say that fighters develop styles based on their own set of gifts or conditions. In other words, they didn't luck out because they were aggressive fighters who just happened to be short; they tailored their individual styles to what stature they had and made it work for them. If Qawi were six feet tall he'd have been a different fighter by design.

    My pick is Langford. A tightly wound little ball of energy who was cat-quick and leapt in on opponents when on the attack. He could get up and under really quickly.
     
  6. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Good post and choices
     
  7. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano talked about this.
    He said he tried to make himself shorter because if his opponent was hitting downward, the punches lost power. If Marciano was punching upward, his punches had more leverage.
    He said he liked tall opponents.
     
  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I get your point Sal, but if they weren't short to begin with then maybe they wouldn't have developed that particular style.

    Langford is a top example mate.
     
  9. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Exactly that, which is why i was curious as to who else made the most of their lack of height.
     
  10. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right, that's what I was trying to say! :lol: Haven't had my coffee yet, still early here I'm afraid. I'll be clearer when I'm more alert........
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Barbados Joe Walcott. Very short. Very strong.
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I don't think being short or having a short reach helps any fighter. I think each guy tries to maximize the tools they have and comes up with their best formula .. the whole Marciano debate from a stylistic standpoint is not if he was effective fighting smaller but how it would have translated against the best f the much bigger men .. it certainly worked well against who he did fight ..
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This.
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I always found that punching downward give increased leverage and power and less vulnerability. Punching upward sucks.
     
  15. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    Probably depends on how you use your legs. Or rather, how you're able to use them.