Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

the only fool shown up is you by answering the weakest part of his argument and ignoring the rest on eubank. you ignore that point that eubie was at the wrong weight at a fortnights notice, completely unprepared and had done nothing of note above domestic level recently and was soon to retire.

either answer the whole post or shut up.

 

How was he at the wrong weight at a fortnights notice? what was his weight normally a fortnight before a fight he had a set weight to make?

With the example you note, would that make Bute a not so good win for Froch when he hadnt beaten any real top SMWs, hasnt beaten anyone of note since etc?

Either way, why are you still following me around with little relevance? You were making weird comments about me just a few posts ago. Whatever it is, you need to get over it seems a bit weird

 

So you cant tell me who was there for Calzaghe if he went to America and Jones went to HW, so you have no argument, but dont want me to ask you who all these American challenges were

 

thats right Loudon.
Ditch a world title, fight abroad, fight for less and just hope that he gets a fight with a fighter who went up to HW atsch

 

I think the majority of fans consider Froch's win of Bute "good but not great".

The style in which he won was 'great', but it doesn't qualify as a 'great' win. As you said, Bute hadn't done much before or since.

 

Nothing in life is certain.

However, has it ever crossed your mind, that he could have moved up in weight, and won a world title, and made MORE money in the process??


Joe had two choices:

1. Take a risk, and move up and fight in the U.S. at LHW, and hope to secure the fight at some stage.

2. Carry on doing what he was doing.


Now he chose option 2.

Which was his prerogative.

But in choosing option 2, he couldn't have expected a fight with Roy Jones.

Roy wasn't going to drop weight, and fly to the U.K. to fight for Joe's title.

Do you understand?

If you're chasing the worlds best, you have to fight on their terms.

Now go and find me a link, where Joe and Frank were prepared to fight Roy in the U.S. at LHW.

:good

 

wat crap.

joe could keep his title, he wouldn't even lose it to jones when he got the **** kicked out of him by roy because its a different weight class.
plus it wouldn't be fighting for less, a jones fight'd pay more than the subdomestics he was facing.
joe was never interested - why -because he said " I am not chasing roy jones"

 

Of course Jones didn't want to fight him, why would he? Calzaghe wasn't a big name or a big draw but was a good fighter. No point fighting someone as good/difficult/awkward as Joe if you are not going to get much money or recognition for it.

 

To me it's like Ward-Froch, Wards wins H2H but Froch is the greater fighter as of right now, Ward can come back and change that but Calzaghe isn't going to. Calzaghe beats BHOP h2h but BHOP is the far greater fighter.

 

why you pretending you don't know he was training for cruiser?
no wonder they call you failey.

are you such an idiot to compare a then prime current champ with a man past titles for years?

still waiting for answers, that's why. yeah, no ones holding their breath.

answer the questions instead of bleating.

 

Is that woman in the first picture your girlfriend?

If so for someone who bigs himself up so much your girlfriend is average at best.

If that's good enough for you as a partner then I don't need your help

 

Most likely a fake profile.

 

AnotherFan,

It seems that you're arguing for the sake of it.

My only argument here, is that Eubank was faded, and I don't see why it should be classed as a great win.

Which you've agreed with.

So what are we arguing/debating for?

You've said above, that he was at the end of a gruelling career. Fighters age differently depending on a number of factors. Again, all I've said is that he was past his best/faded.

We didn't have to be in camp with him to know that he was sparring guys that replicated Prince, and then all of a sudden he was told he'd be facing a southpaw at a lighter weight. We know that he hadn't fought at SMW for a while. So again, it was hardly ideal preparation.

He was fired up, and he gave it is all. But as you've said yourself, he was at the end of a long career. Joe beat a faded version of Eubank, who's preparation wasn't ideal. Therefore, it can't be classed as a great win.

He wasn't in the best of shape was he? If he was having injections in his knees just prior to the fight.

There is no angle, and I'm obviously aware that fruit is good for you.

What I'm saying is, he hadn't made the weight in a while, and was originally planning to fight at LHW.

When he took the fight against Joe, his wife put him on a liquidised diet of fruit and veg to make weight.

So from starting camp, he'd had to change his sparring partners, his diet, his weight, and he had a change of an opponent who was a southpaw. Yet despite of all of the above, and the fact that he was past his best, this was somehow a great win in the boxing world?

I agree entirely.

But it wasn't a great win.

Right, so what are we debating?

If anyone wants to claim it was either a very good win, or it was great for Joe personally, then I've got no issue with that.

But Bailey likes to claim it as some sort of an amazing feat.