Will you lose respect for Nard if he punks out?

Cormega · Nov 4, 2014

jonze86 said: ↑

Boxers are said to be past his primes usually mid 30's.Hopkins is underrated if something.

And he didn't quit against Joe,it was highly competitive SD.and yes he lost against Dawson when he was 1000yrs old already.so what?he beat Pascal who beat Dawson.it's amazing that he is still highly competitive against these young guns in boxing.

When you are 1000yrs old you can't go toe2toe and give fans a great brawl.

I'm still young 28.but i respect highly what this man is doing on daily basis.i can only imagine how hard it will be at 50.truly special athlete,we will probably never again, see this kind of athlete. who competes at the highest level at this age

I have seen,many Kovalev fans etc.. Are not 100% sure he will win,they are already making excuses for their boy.i would love nothing more that Hopkins holds&fouls his way to decision.then we would see these keyboard warriors crying again.

One week and Kovalev goes from KO machine to overhyped bum,who never beat anybody and Hopkins cheated blaa blaa etc..

And they will give zero credit for that FACT. Hopkins is 1000yrs old and is still top of the boxing world.

Hopkins should inspire all of us,one of the greatest stories in the world.and shows how far dedication and believing yourself could push you in life.
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:deal

And I love how some pasty ****** who has never even laced up a pair of gloves has the nerve to say "he tried to quit against Calzaghe" behind a keyboard when the replay clearly showed that he was hit low and despite the fact that he finished the fight. WTF is "trying to quit"? Quitting ain't all that hard to do to, so there is no trying to quit. He either did or didn't.

David HEY!!! · Nov 4, 2014

Hopkins will pull out all the "veteran" moves.:yep

Beouche · Nov 4, 2014

Staminakills said: ↑

if hops goes 12 and is standing at the end and can speak a couple words, yes a couple words that will be the greatest sports accomplishment in sports for 2014 period
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You've obviously not heard of Sam Burgess

WildStyle · Nov 4, 2014

jonze86 said: ↑

Yes,senior citizens should not even belong in the ring.especially against monster like Kovalev.even going full 12rounds and losing should get respect.

What is that many posters don't understand that 50yrs old man is basically corpse in boxing ring?

If he would go toe2toe and win.it should be considered as single best perfomance in sports in general.

Even going dirty,and winning is up there to debatable as one of the greatest perfomances ever.
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Well....Foreman did it.

WildStyle · Nov 4, 2014

Cormega said: ↑

:deal

And I love how some pasty ****** who has never even laced up a pair of gloves has the nerve to say "he tried to quit against Calzaghe" behind a keyboard when the replay clearly showed that he was hit low and despite the fact that he finished the fight. WTF is "trying to quit"? Quitting ain't all that hard to do to, so there is no trying to quit. He either did or didn't.
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He's punked out on more than one occasion.

JAB5239 · Nov 4, 2014

jonze86 said: ↑

Boxers are said to be past his primes usually mid 30's.Hopkins is underrated if something.

And he didn't quit against Joe,it was highly competitive SD.and yes he lost against Dawson when he was 1000yrs old already.so what?he beat Pascal who beat Dawson.it's amazing that he is still highly competitive against these young guns in boxing.

When you are 1000yrs old you can't go toe2toe and give fans a great brawl.

I'm still young 28.but i respect highly what this man is doing on daily basis.i can only imagine how hard it will be at 50.truly special athlete,we will probably never again, see this kind of athlete. who competes at the highest level at this age

I have seen,many Kovalev fans etc.. Are not 100% sure he will win,they are already making excuses for their boy.i would love nothing more that Hopkins holds&fouls his way to decision.then we would see these keyboard warriors crying again.

One week and Kovalev goes from KO machine to overhyped bum,who never beat anybody and Hopkins cheated blaa blaa etc..

And they will give zero credit for that FACT. Hopkins is 1000yrs old and is still top of the boxing world.

Hopkins should inspire all of us,one of the greatest stories in the world.and shows how far dedication and believing yourself could push you in life.
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Excellent post!

kovalevtheGoat · Nov 4, 2014

He wont Punk out as you say, he will be knocked out by Sergey KRUSHER Kovalev.

Rock0052 · Nov 4, 2014

I went from simply wanting to see a good fight to wanting to see Hopkins knocked the **** out.

Great pre-fight interview, Hops. Maybe I'm being too hard on the old *******, though. Sometimes I forget he's so old, Sonny Liston called him Pappy.

Rumsfeld · Nov 4, 2014

Rock0052 said: ↑

I went from simply wanting to see a good fight to wanting to see Hopkins knocked the **** out.

Great pre-fight interview, Hops. Maybe I'm being too hard on the old *******, though. Sometimes I forget he's so old, Sonny Liston called him Pappy.
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Which specific quote most upset you?

Rock0052 · Nov 4, 2014

Rumsfeld said: ↑

Which specific quote most upset you?
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The race thing annoyed me slightly, but that's a card Hopkins played before- I'm not surprised he went back to that well to sell the fight.

The Pavlik quote bothered me, legit. Even if we completely ignore the man being an alcoholic before the Hopkins fight, it's in poor form to take pride in ruining another fighter's life and making that your biggest accomplishment in the ring.

Had Kovalev resorted to that and used Simakov's name in such a way, for example, I'd have shifted to cheering for a Hopkins knockout/schooling in a heartbeat.

Rumsfeld · Nov 4, 2014

Rock0052 said: ↑

The race thing annoyed me slightly, but that's a card Hopkins played before- I'm not surprised he went back to that well to sell the fight.

The Pavlik quote bothered me, legit. Even if we completely ignore the man being an alcoholic before the Hopkins fight, it's in poor form to take pride in ruining another fighter's life and making that your biggest accomplishment in the ring.
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Was he really taking "pride" or are you reading a bit much into this? In fairness, I didn't see footage of the quote in question, but I assume you refer to this: "And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."

Factually speaking, aside from the 6:1 odds he noted (I thought it was 4:1 myself, or perhaps even 3:1 - but am not certain), everything he said was true, no?

He did expose Pavlik. He did ruin Pavlik's career, and by extension, he at least derailed the life path Pavlik was undergoing.

I don't think Bernard was necessarily taking pride in "ruining" Pavlik. What I'm reading is, if he's taking pride in anything, it's that he won that fight with such ease when everyone was counting him out and many expected a slaughter.

Also keep in mind the entire context of how the interview started. Bernard, in this light, was being questioned point blank why he doesn't get the respect he probably deserves. Why his unbelievably amazing accomplishments haven't "transcended the sport". This all comes down to Hopkins never getting the credit he felt was his due (rightly or wrongly), and the Pavlik fight largely personifies that, at least to me, in the way the media was acting in the lead-up to that one, which is eerily similar to the lead-up in this one.

You're a great poster Rock - one of the very few whose posts I try and make a point to read when I see your name as last post in a recent thread. But I strongly disagree with you here, and do not necessarily think Hopkins was exhibiting the type of spiteful pride you're suggesting. I see no strong evidence of it from the portions of the interview I did see in conjunction with the excerpt I read.

kovalevtheGoat · Nov 4, 2014

Stop, everyone. Sergey KRUSHER Kovalev is knocking the old boy out on the 8th on november 2014.

vast · Nov 5, 2014

I don't have much respect for him to begin with, except that he is near 50. That's a bout it.

LondonRingRules · Nov 5, 2014

Rumsfeld said: ↑

Was he really taking "pride" or are you reading a bit much into this? In fairness, I didn't see footage of the quote in question, but I assume you refer to this: "And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."

Factually speaking, aside from the 6:1 odds he noted (I thought it was 4:1 myself, or perhaps even 3:1 - but am not certain), everything he said was true, no?

He did expose Pavlik. He did ruin Pavlik's career, and by extension, he at least derailed the life path Pavlik was undergoing.

I don't think Bernard was necessarily taking pride in "ruining" Pavlik. What I'm reading is, if he's taking pride in anything, it's that he won that fight with such ease when everyone was counting him out and many expected a slaughter.

Also keep in mind the entire context of how the interview started. Bernard, in this light, was being questioned point blank why he doesn't get the respect he probably deserves. Why his unbelievably amazing accomplishments haven't "transcended the sport". This all comes down to Hopkins never getting the credit he felt was his due (rightly or wrongly), and the Pavlik fight largely personifies that, at least to me, in the way the media was acting in the lead-up to that one, which is eerily similar to the lead-up in this one.

You're a great poster Rock - one of the very few whose posts I try and make a point to read when I see your name as last post in a recent thread. But I strongly disagree with you here, and do not necessarily think Hopkins was exhibiting the type of spiteful pride you're suggesting. I see no strong evidence of it from the portions of the interview I did see in conjunction with the excerpt I read.
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He was taking pride in it on some level otherwise he wouldn't have even mentioned the part about ruining his life. He's clearly trying to imply that he took him apart that badly in the ring that it ruined his life outside of it aswell, he's clearly proud of it IMO.

drozzy · Nov 5, 2014

Rumsfeld said: ↑

Was he really taking "pride" or are you reading a bit much into this? In fairness, I didn't see footage of the quote in question, but I assume you refer to this: "And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."

Factually speaking, aside from the 6:1 odds he noted (I thought it was 4:1 myself, or perhaps even 3:1 - but am not certain), everything he said was true, no?

He did expose Pavlik. He did ruin Pavlik's career, and by extension, he at least derailed the life path Pavlik was undergoing.

I don't think Bernard was necessarily taking pride in "ruining" Pavlik. What I'm reading is, if he's taking pride in anything, it's that he won that fight with such ease when everyone was counting him out and many expected a slaughter.

Also keep in mind the entire context of how the interview started. Bernard, in this light, was being questioned point blank why he doesn't get the respect he probably deserves. Why his unbelievably amazing accomplishments haven't "transcended the sport". This all comes down to Hopkins never getting the credit he felt was his due (rightly or wrongly), and the Pavlik fight largely personifies that, at least to me, in the way the media was acting in the lead-up to that one, which is eerily similar to the lead-up in this one.

You're a great poster Rock - one of the very few whose posts I try and make a point to read when I see your name as last post in a recent thread. But I strongly disagree with you here, and do not necessarily think Hopkins was exhibiting the type of spiteful pride you're suggesting. I see no strong evidence of it from the portions of the interview I did see in conjunction with the excerpt I read.
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When Hopkins is asked to talk about his accomplishments, it's one thing to say he beat Pavlik in convincing fashion, it's something entirely different when you hear "I ruined his life". So condescending, the puffy chest attitude can be read by an 8 yr old. The man has no respect for Pavlik whatsoever. Considering his lack of sportsmanship, I hope he spends all of Sunday in a hospital.

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