Andre Ward on Twitter

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  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    In 8 days, it'll be a year since the last time Ward stepped into the ring.

    We don't even know when's the next time he'll fight again. What a waste of a prime.
     
  2. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy has cleaned out an entire division. I think he has room to talk.[/quote]

    He's fought once since September 2012. He's in his prime.

    Why isn't he making fights with Chavez? Golovkin? Stevenson? Hopkins? Kovalev?
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :think
     
  4. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward needs a slap in the face

    When is this fool going to wake up?
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bute who although hadnt beaten a name as good as Kessler or Froch, was deemed the biggest threat at the time, was undefeated, who had been a world champ longer, had made more world title defences, beaten several top 10 rated SMWs and at that point had a win resume arguably comparable to Frochs at that time, who was looking very impressive wasnt of interest
     
  6. Vysotskyy

    Vysotskyy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So Ward thinks Kovalev/Hopkins is a meaningful fight yet when he was asked about fighting him said Sergei wasn't worthwhile, would be a waste of his time, is a nobody etc.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Who's Andre Ward? never heard of him...
     
  8. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Wish he would take his own advice.[/quote]

    umm,you mean the guy who cleaned out sis division by the time he was 27???
     
  9. STB

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    He's fought once since September 2012. He's in his prime.

    Why isn't he making fights with Chavez? Golovkin? Stevenson? Hopkins? Kovalev?[/quote]


    probably the,same,reason they aren't making fights with him
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :yep Yeah, Bute wasn't worthy either.


    'For the past two-plus years, super middleweight titlist Lucian Bute has gone about his business as the outsider. While six of the top 168-pounders -- eight when you include the two replacements -- were duking it out in the Super Six World Boxing Classic, Bute was on the outside longingly looking in.

    Bute was clearly one of the top fighters in the division when former Showtime boxing chief Ken Hershman, who masterminded the tournament, declined to invite him to participate. That incorrect decision was a double-whammy for Bute. Not only was he left out of a tournament he obviously belonged in, but with so many of the division's top fighters tied up in the event, Bute's field of attractive opponents became that much smaller.


    Lucian Bute is a 168-pound champ and star in his own right, but Andre Ward isn't giving him his due -- or, it seems, a fight in the near future.
    So Bute made do with the opponents available. He defended his title six times during the course of the tournament, winning five bouts by knockout, as he defeated Librado Andrade (for the second time), Edison Miranda, Jesse Brinkley, Brian Magee, Jean Paul Mendy and Super Six replacement Glen Johnson, who was eliminated in the semifinals. That's a good, but hardly stellar, group.

    But before the Super Six finally concluded Saturday night, with Andre Ward dominating Carl Froch to unify a pair of belts and claim the pure silver cup, Bute (30-0, 24 KOs) said he felt like it was Christmas and New Year's Eve all wrapped into one because, with the tournament finally ending, he and promoter Jean Bedard could finally be free to pursue a fight with the winner, which would obviously be the biggest fight in the division.

    Bute and Bedard, who met with a handful of boxing media a few hours before the final, made it clear that their priority was the winner. The main reason Bute signed with Showtime in late 2010 was to position himself to face the winner, who is also tied to the network.

    "I am ready to fight the winner," said Bute, a native of Romania based in Montreal, in his ever-improving English. "If Carl Froch wins, I'm ready to fight in Nottingham [England] to make this fight happen. And if it's Ward, I can go to Oakland."

    Bute is a major draw in Montreal and Quebec City, so the money flows because his gates are so large. But he wants to fight in the United States, even if it means taking less money.

    "I fought in Montreal only because I sold 15,000, 16,000 tickets and I receive no offer from any fighters to fight outside of Montreal or Quebec City," Bute said. "It's not because I don't want to fight outside [of Canada]."

    Interbox's Bedard said Bute is willing to go on the road to boost his profile.

    "What we want in 2012 is to have the best fights," Bedard said. "The Super Six was a great tournament, but for us, we were not invited. So we had to get the guys who were ready to come to fight Lucian. Lucian knows we draw a lot of people in Montreal or Quebec City, but he's ready to take a step back in terms of money to have the possibility to fight these guys in a neutral place like New York or Vegas, or even go to Nottingham or Oakland. We are open to all the scenarios to try to make it happen."


    Sadly, it doesn't seem like Bute or boxing fans will get the fight they want. Ward showed little interest in Bute at his postfight media conference after his masterpiece against Froch. Sure, Ward earned the right to do what he wants after such a tough road in the Super Six, but it's still disappointing to hear.

    "To be perfectly honest, no disrespect to Bute and his team, but they've sat back and they've fought B-level and C-level guys and he did what he was supposed to do," said Ward, failing to grasp that Bute wasn't invited to the Super Six and had no A-level opponents available to him. "He stopped them and he's gotten them out of there. But he's just been sitting back, waiting, while we've been fighting for the past two and a half years against top-level competition.

    "So I don't have to go to Lucian Bute right now," Ward said. "We're going to sit back and I'm going to rest and we'll see what's next. I'm open for a Mikkel Kessler clash. I would love to get that rematch and settle that score, since he feels like it wasn't a legitimate victory [in the opening round of the tournament]. Going up to light heavyweight for the right fight -- not to campaign up there, but for the right fight -- is an option. So we've just got to sit back and see what makes sense. I think I earned the right to pick the right fight for the right price."

    Rather than talk up a fight with Bute, Ward (25-0, 13 KOs) instead tried to play matchmaker, suggesting that Bute face the vanquished Froch, who has trash-talked Bute and riled up his Canadian fans over the past few years.

    "That's a tremendous fight for Carl because I know Carl doesn't like Bute," Ward said. "To be perfectly honest, I think Bute has to beat somebody. I'm just gonna be frank with you: He has to beat somebody, an A-level guy, to get a shot. We'll sit back and talk as a team, but off the top of my head, he has to beat somebody. You can't sit back and just take your time while everyone else is working hard and you come in and get the same pay that everyone else gets. It don't work like that. This is a sport, but we also use our brains for business, and we'll sit down and make a solid business decision."




    During the earlier session with the media, Bedard seemed to already know this was what Ward would say after the fight.

    "I think it will be tougher to make a fight with Ward instead of Froch," Bedard said a few hours before the fight. "I think there is more of a story regarding Froch in Canada -- but you never know. For our fans in Canada, Froch has been talking against Lucian for the past five years, so it's a very easy fight to promote for us."

    As it turns out, just a few days removed from Froch's loss there is already talk of a two-fight deal between Froch and Bute, with one bout taking place in England and one in Canada.

    Still, Bute held out hope that he would get Ward.

    "Priority is to fight the winner because I want to unify the titles," Bute said'
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    Ward went from saying this:

    Andre Ward on who he would pick to win if he was not involved in the Super Six and Lucian Bute were there in his place:

    11-06-2010

    “Wow, that’s a great question. I would have to have Bute and Dirrell as the top two guys on my list. I always favor the type of guy—I’m stealing some words from Carl Froch, you know being in the Super Six with these guys, I’m learning a little something—but I would always favor a guy who can do more than one thing. Taking nothing away from the other guys, I think that if Bute was in the tournament and Dirrell being in the tournament, I think they have more tools in the toolbox so to speak. I would probably lean towards those guys, but that being said, the other four combatants—they demand respect. As we’ve seen with the seesaw up and downs in terms of who’s winning, nothing is guaranteed. That’s what makes the Super Six the Super Six and that’s what’s so exciting, but those two guys would be on top of my list to win the whole thing.”

    On whether he believes the Super Six Champion needs to defeat Lucian Bute before he can be considered the best super middleweight in the world:

    “I think it would be the other way around. I think Bute would have to face off with the Super Six Champion to prove that he’s the best super middleweight. You know you come out of a tournament like this on top, that demands a lot of respect and that carries a lot of weight. Taking nothing away from Bute, he’s not fighting the competition that’s in the Super Six so I think it would be the other way around. I think the Super Six champion if he wanted to go to another weight class, I think it would not be good for the fans and the sport necessarily or the 168 pound weight class, because everyone would want to see the Super Six Champion and Bute fight but in terms of legacy, I think Bute would need to be in a hurry to want a future fight with the Super Six Champion.”

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    To this


    ''He [Bute] needs to beat ONE or TWO good guys, A-level guys, and even in some cases come out of his hometown and do it to get a shot.'

    And then when Bute did what he suggested he said this:

    "I was disappointed," Ward said. "Bute and his promoter were screaming and yelling that I was ducking them, then they go and make a two-fight deal with Froch where if he loses, he takes Froch back to Canada? I didn't understand that.''

    But he's the one who said that Bute needed to fight ONE or TWO A-level guys and leave his ''hometown''. So why on Earth did he complain about Bute wanting a rematch clause for the Froch fight? Bute took his title on the road (and for a pay cut) to Froch's backyard (literally) right into the lion's den, which is something Ward has both never done and has publicly expressed reluctance to do so for fear of ''getting robbed'. He said Bute needs to come out of his hometown and fight one OR two A class opponents and then he criticized him for making sure there was a rematch clause in place in the event that he ended up getting robbed in the country that Ward said he would be seriously worried about getting robbed in if he were to fight there? lol
     
  11. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wards will never be relevant again. He's book-ended by GGG and Kovalev, nowhere to go. He best chase Jr down for some $$ and exposure.
     
  12. WildStyle

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    :good:deal
     
  13. theDUD3

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    Is Ward taking potshots at Floyd or himself?
     
  14. Techniques

    Techniques Well-Known Member Full Member

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    like how you mentioned GMO's :lol:, but besides that this comment sort of stinks
     
  15. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does anybody know why he had fought only 2 fights in over 3 years ? He was on top of the world p4p #3 and is nowhere to be found.