Prime RJJ vs Tonight's Kovalev

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Be serious. RJJ had no intention of fighting LL. That you can be sure of.
     
  2. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones didnt , but after he beat Ruiz there was talk of the Lennox fight , and it wasnt Roy bringing it up , but when you are that good then these things happen.
     
  3. jaymon112

    jaymon112 MARVELOUS Full Member

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    This is laughable. :rofl

    Rummy you done fucked it up.
     
  4. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins never priced himself out. The best fighting the best on a 50/50 split is as fair as it gets.
     
  5. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree but I still think Kovalev would have been one of the better opponents to face Roy Jones Jr. Patient, clever, fairly skillfull and with some serious power.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    You are right but did u consider it wa for Jones title's and he also held a win over him?
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    AnotherFan,

    It showed you his mindset.

    How could you expect a guy to move down in weight for half of the purse, if he's two divisions above you, and he already holds a win over you?

    That's ridiculous.

    What did Roy have to gain?

    Again, he was two divisions higher, and the undisputed LHW champ.

    He had nothing to prove.

    He'd already beaten him.

    The only thing that would have enticed him was the lions share of a big pot.

    You're only looking from Bernard's perspective.

    Roy had nothing to gain by fighting him.

    How on earth does it constitute as a duck?

    How?

    On what grounds?

    Just because he wouldn't accept 50/50?

    Why the hell should he have accepted that?


    Bernard was still at MW. Roy had toyed with fighting at HW for years. Fighting Ruiz was much bigger from his perspective.

    Ha!

    It's not a duck. He'd already beaten him and had nothing to gain.

    Hopkins could have haggled, or they could have had 60% for the winner, and 40% to the loser like in 2010.

    But it was Hopkins who had to do the work to make the fight.

    Why can't you see that?

    It's he who had to come to an agreement with Roy, not vice versa.

    Roy was in a position of power.

    Hopkins had to have been prepared to take less, if he truly wanted the fight.

    There was no other way.

    Of course it's relevant. Because again, it showed you his mindset.

    He wouldn't negotiate and go all out to make the fight in 2002, yet he was more than happy to do so in 2010.

    It's laughable how you can label it a duck, on the grounds that Roy wouldn't accept 50/50.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's fair about a guy having to move down in weight, to fight a guy who he'd already beaten, for 50/50?

    Explain.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  10. Sadono

    Sadono Active Member Full Member

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    Kovalev is the guy I can actually see KOing a prime and in-form RJJ. He's that good.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He showed great patience last night.

    I definitely think that he could have got Hopkins out of there, if he'd have gone for it.

    But he stuck to a game plan, and was calm and composed.

    He's a great fighter with a lot of attributes.

    But I just can't envisage him landing flush on Roy.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    **** I meant to put Roy by stoppage
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    What fight at Light Heavyweight showed Jones was unbeatable? :huh

    He fought in an awful era at Light Heavyweight and never fought the champion of the Division.
     
  14. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Prime Jones Jr, by stoppage in the second half of the fight.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :patsch Just when you thought it was safe to come back in another one of them crawls out of the woodwork. These bloody pesky little roaches are everywhere. Someone needs to give pest control a call to come and clean this place up before it's too late.

    You Roy Jones nuthuggers are all bat**** crazy. You inhabit an alternate reality to the the rest of us. A fantasy world where Roy's nauseatingly fragile glass jaw isn't forged out of the most brittle substance known to mankind.

    You're all totally delusional. I think you all genuinely believe that if somebody were to swing a sledgehammer at a pane of glass it's the sledgehammer that's going to break and not the glass.

    No one with a mandible as comically feeble as Jones is making it past the end of the third round against a puncher like Kovalev. A prime ie. roided Roy Jones was dropped hard by Lou Del Valle for Christ sake. Del Valle couldn't crush a grape with baseball bat yet he dropped Roy like a sack of potatoes with an innocuous looking love tap that made each one of Roy's chicken legs dance to two completely different pieces of music at the same time.

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    An Antonio Tarver who could only manage to stop a grand total of two other opponents in a seven year period, one of whom was a journeyman who was knocked out in every single one of his loses, dropped Roy like he'd been shot in the face with an elephant rifle.

    I honestly think there's a very high probability that Roy's head would literally explode if Kovalev detonated one of his bombs on it. I'm being serious too.

    Ya'll must've forgot.


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