Whom is more of a "gimme" for the other stylistically between prime Bowe & Tyson?

Does anyone think Bowe would use his dirty tactics on this guy? Hitting on the break/rabbit punches/hitting after the bell and that sort of thing?

And which guy backs up? I'm certain it's Riddick backing up early here. And the winner of the fight is the guy not backing up.

 

Ive already done a detailed analysis if this fight, i think IBs already read it, but most of the points here cover what i wrote anyway.

In a nutshell, Bowe is not Douglas, never has fought like him.
Bowe likes to trade and banks on his chin and durability, Tyson is a big puncher

 

Yeah, but Douglas was not Douglas and never had fought like him either.

 

Apart from their training and eating habits, they were different fighters.

Anyway, Bowe's aggressive, wide open style dooms him against Tyson. It'd be fun while it lasted though.

 

Are you even aware of the dirty tactics Tyson used throughout his career? Or do you simply " choose " to ignore them?

Bowe backing up early?

Are you real? No way does Bowe back up from a guy 7 inches shorter, and 20lbs lighter. What he does is take away his mid range ability, and take the fight to the inside where he batters Tyson into submission in 8 - 10 rounds.

 

outside of the Holyfield fights which were more a battle of will than skill.

name one performance that Bowe put on similar to Douglas?

 

Riddicks inside game & uppercuts would come into play here. Rermember, that ?

 

The point is, Bowe would have adapted his style to fight Tyson, just as everyone else did.
Most of them found no success. But Buster did.

I do believe the Bowe of 1992 was better than Buster Douglas, and better than Tony Tucker for example.

He did have size. He did have skills. He did have a heart and determination and attitude. And he had a great strategist/trainer in his corner.

 

Bowe never showed once in his career that h adapted, he did the same thing every time. If he struggled to adapt vs the likes of Tubbs and Golota, what makes you think hell do the same vs Tyson?
Out of the three, Bowe, Holyfield and Lewis, id say Bowe was the least smartest

Both Holyfield and Lewis adapted their tactics to beat Tyson, Bowe fought NOTHING like that and never showed me once in his career the ability to adapt.

I disagree, Bowe never once fought a fight like Douglas, every Bowe fight involved a war of some sort. Bowe fights in the complete opposite way of Tucker. If Tyson can get a UD over a guy who ran, held, had a physical and style advantage over him, do you really think a guy who comes to him with his chin hanging out is going to do any better?

Which he never effectively used. Compare Lewis performance vs Holyfield and then Bowes.

Hes more known for his brawling than his skills. As i said before, Bowe never, not once, put on a flawless performance like Douglas did. Bowe struggled with Hide and Cooper was hitting Bowe at will in the first round. Neither of these 2 would have got past 2 rounds vs Tyson.

When people say you have 'heart' thats because you took a beating and if your taking a beating, thats because your defence is **** as was the case with Bowe, the guy had little to no defence, i dont see Bowe taking a pummeling and surviving Tyson. I give him determination, thats his quality which stood out

Attitude? fighting Tyson with attitude and not brains, is basically begging to be knocked out.

Same Eddie Futch was also in his corner when he struggled with Tubbs, Biggs and Mathis?

Wasnt Futch also in Fraziers corner vs Foreman and when Tyson fought Spinks?

Futch would come up with the perfect gameplan to beat Tyson, but as soon as Bowe gets hit in the face, i guarantee you Bowe will resort to what he does always, and thats show bravado and brawl and its only a matter of time before Tyson catches him and/or wears him down.

 

To get inside Tyson, hed have to walk through some leather, Tyson is a mid range bomber and Bowe has little to no defence.

Tyson would constantly catch Bowe on the way in.

 

Yep. Bowe backs up. 10 seconds into the fight, he's backing up. He doesn't have the footwork to do anything else against this opponent. He doesn't move his feet or his torso fast enough. Tyson steps in when he throws and Bowe has to plant his feet to do anything. Anything. Tyson eats up those easy to hit stationary guys. The plodders can't get away fast enough.

He needs footwork and mobility to avoid the guy. It isn't there.

Lots of guys had inches and pounds on Tyson. Are you mystified by the size discrepency in this fight only? Tyson dealt with that before. Nothing new.

Also, Bowe is not a big enough hitter to bother the guy. He has to string together a ton of punches to get guys out of there. His defense won't allow him the time it'd take him to have an accummulation factor set in with a Tyson.

 

Azzer,
I think you've become a serious under-rater of Bowe. You used to be more far appreciative of his skills and strengths. Now you're just over-empahasising his weaknesses, and possibly inventing some. I think you need to find a balance here somehow. :good

 

Great thread.

Just out of curiosity, do you think if Evander had fought James in Tokyo, it would have been the same outcome as when they actually fought, eight months later?

I've always wondered.


:good

 

I know, i've gone from being a Bowe fan to a big time hater :yep
Then again, i did the same thing with Calzaghe.

However, i wish Riddicks son, Ruddock Bowe, all the best in his singing career

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDfqh5MMJ7M

 

Azzer,

I was 15 when Bowe beat Hide, and I haven't seen the fight since.

But I thought Bowe handled him easy and knocked him down multiple times?

Or did Hide cause him trouble early on etc?


Thanks.