Not clarifying if title defenses are lineal or for trinkets inflates resumes

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon holds the record for the most title defenses of the middleweight world championship at 14


    Bernard Hopkins holds the record for most title defenses of an alphabet title at middleweight


    its not the same



    Nor is Calzaghe's title defenses at 168....even though they went on to win the lineal title we cant rewrite history.


    IMO these "records" inflate their accomplishments
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Jones jr at HW. That record has yet to be broken.
     
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  3. pugilistspecialist

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    Bob Fitzsimmons is the only fighter to win the middleweight, lt. hvy and heavyweight title


    Roy Jones is my favorite fighter of all time but he never was lineal champion at 160, 175, or heavyweight
     
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  4. Badbot

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    :yep
    But he was the man to beat at 175. And he was ranked as the best P4P at one time.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Of course. And that is why judging eras and finding a way to be consistent is key when comparing fighters from different eras.

    Biggest current example here is Wladimir Klitschko. People say he has 16 title defenses in his second title run and is 9 short of tying Joe Louis' record of 25. However, he only won the lineal title at the earliest against Ruslan Chagaev, so that number of 16 is inaccurate.
     
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