Is anyone still clinging to the idea that Hopkins quit against Dawson?

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  1. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    After the Kovalev fight does anyone believe that still? It was stupid to begin with when he went right back into a rematch over the distance but now that we've seen him get dominated by a world class puncher too even older and also at 175 and over the distance, can any of you believe that crap? Just curious if anybody who believed that finally changed their mind.
     
  2. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I think he saw it as a get out jail card seeing as he knew he was in for a long night,Dawson was laying it on him but cant fault him last week,heart of a lion..
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just goes to show, once ******ed always ******ed. People simply want to believe what they want to believe to suit their opinion, nothing like facts or reality will change people minds they are to busy sticking their heads in the ground.

    Hopkins always starts slowly and he had barely lost the first 5 mins of the fight. If Hopkins had wanted to duck Dawson he would have simply dumped the WBC title and beaten Cloud for his title like he did. It was Hopkins who chased the rematch it was Dawson who didn't want it.

    10 months before he had been dropped twice by Pascal yet didn't quit or fake a foul. If he didn't want the fight why did he fight Dawson twice? If he felt he was being dominated by Dawson why did not do the same against Pascal, Kovalev and the rematch with Dawson?
     
  4. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    So after the first round with Kovalev he didn't think it was going to be a long night, or the second-twelfth, but with Dawson after only a handful of perfectly competitive minutes he decided to blatantly quit and fake a game-changing injury? Then go back and fight Dawson again and not quit through twelve in a clear loss? Oh. my. God. Where is the glitch with you guys? It.makes.zero.sense.
    You're right. This is amazing. You could teach a psych course about this one issue. There wasn't anything to support the theory when it started and no matter how much more ridiculous it looks they don't want to let it go. What can you say?
     
  5. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Hopkins quit like a pu$$y v Dawson, its not even debatable, we've seen that horrible crybaby face from Hopkins too often to know he wants a way out of a fight :crybaby
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    He quit only to rematch him 5 months later?
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    kovalev> calzaghe, deal with it
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Does anyone believe that Duran quit against Leonard after what he did against Barkley?
     
  9. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    If your point is that fighters don't have the same resolve every time out of course that's true but are they really comparable considering the fight had barely begun when Hopkins was hurt and there is zero evidence to the contrary that I'm aware of that he wasn't hurt and he was completely in the small amount of fight that had taken place up to that point? That fighters don't always bring the same resolve doesn't mean you completely disregard Hopkins history before that fight, what happened during the fight, and what he did since. His whole career isn't proof that he didn't quit but it completely demonstrates the improbability that he did ON TOP OF the fact that the action hadn't shown any reason for a quit job when it was stopped. None. Does anyone think Hopkins was being embarrassed against Dawson by that second round? How could anyone think what happened was some unbearable panic inducing or pride killing experience that made him look for a way out? Again-it makes no sense. Baseless.
     
  10. MN_Logan

    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins actually got some sort of injury (can't remember what it was exactly) after Dawson threw him down, I'm pretty sure Oscar posted the X-Ray pictures online.
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i love hopkins. but he wasnt hurt. he couldnt have fallen any softer than he did.... the fake grimacing while being interviewed was over kill. Chad was laying into his ass and was stronger than he thought....
    hopkins is crazy like a fox. he knew once it was called a foul he could pull the "i cant continue card" because "how can anyone question an injury??"
    Hopkins, touch as nails, prison hard for 6 years, trains like a madman, philly tough....and hes gonna fall over on a boxing canvas and roll around in pain like he fell 3 stories onto concrete? :rofl
    he was smart enough to know it was controversial and he would get paid twice for one fight. never one dr report, never one mention of it again.... it was a farce
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    its also impossible to think a guy that fell down and played the same game with calzaghe and roy jones , could somehow fake yet again in a 3rd fight
     
  13. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    :think

    :nut
     
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    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I heard someon on a podcast (johnny nelson?) adhere to the theory recently but I never really thought it was true personally, though I never disregarded the theory completely, which would have been stupid.

    though there was at the time, pre his xray scans on his shoulder, a fair enough and even probable case for arguing it, given Hopkins record of 'cheating' and fakery.

    Dawson was basically a thug that round of that night, trying to rough up the old man dirty, losing his temper with Hopkins own dirt when he lifted and threw Bernie. Sumo, it aint.