Do you think its important for the casual fan to understand the bussiness side?

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  1. boxing_master

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    that's known they want to reap the investments from the boxing side what's the point if they pump in money from other areas?

    HBO have sound investments and are on a long term project they are more then fine in the boxing side they don't pump in money from movie side for example into the boxing.
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    How do you know where they are pulling money from?
     
  3. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why did you suddenly become concerned with networks when floyd signed a exclusive deal with showtime?

    ******* stop trolling man.
     
  4. boxing_master

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    I know because I have handled financial accounts before if the company for example is not making money from the boxing side and they need to cover costs they need to pump money from somewhere be it a loan for example but if the company is as big as showtime we know they don't just do boxing so they pump in money from other stuff into boxing.
     
  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It's no coincidence that he talks **** about Showtime, Floyd, TMT, Haymon, and anyone associated with TMT and Haymon. Anyone on Pacquiao's side (HBO, Top Rank, Roach's stable) all get a pass.

    Danny Garcia vs Rod Salka and he's calling Danny a cherry picker. But Ruslan Provodnikov can fight old washed Castillo and he's cool with it.
     
  6. boxing_master

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    I am not concerned with networks :hi:
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

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    Lol so how do you know they are coming up short in boxing? And that's common sense; pulling from other departments to cover a loss.
     
  8. boxing_master

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    its well known showtime are falling short for their goals in the boxing department it has been a failure.
     
  9. texboxing00

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    1)Your a idiot if you think showtime/CBS would of thrown enough money to seriously put a dent in their profits, that's the first sign that shows you don't know what your talking about.

    2)there is no proof that they have lost any money on Floyd, and in fact it shows that they have been successful by show casing midana vs Floyd twice. Boxing is a buisness first, and there is no way they would have had a rematch if the numbers from the first fight were poor. A lot goes on before a fight is ever announced, including the discussion of options with pros and con's.

    3) showtime has the power to end this deal at any time, even though they already paid Floyd, they still invest money with every fight to promote, broadcast etc, and if they were making no profit, it would of benefited them to just stop broadcasting Floyd's fights.


    Just stop duck master, the fact that you work customer service for merril lynch in a call center does not make you some genius. I have also worked for a huge financial firm for the last 7 years but you don't see me pretending to know about another company's profits that they don't make public.


    Your stupid assumptions are from so called estimations of the lowest ppv count you can find and what Floyd gets paid. Don't forget gate money, money that other networks pay to telecast(there's is so many out there), money that company's pay to get their logo on the fight (like corona on the ring, history channel on the ropes etc) ..all that money cbs gets, not floyd.

    Also the network had said they sold about 925k, you claim to say its 700k. 925k comes from showtime and the 700k comes from a network not associated with showtime. Guess which one you stick with ?
     
  10. boxing_master

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    1)Showtime was that stupid to put in all that investment on duckweathert thinking they would be making a return they were expecting over 1.2 mill buys for each bouts only canelo was a success and they are using that money to cover other costs so out of 4 bouts 1 fight was only a success they lost money in the 3 fights they allowed the maidana rematch because they think duckweather will give them that big bout with pac but again they messed up.
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Expecting 1.2 mill for EACH fight? You're crazy. You don't know what Showtime invested or what they didn't.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

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    boxingmaster just HOPES Floyd fails, that's all. This is delusion.
     
  13. boxing_master

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    I never started this thread to talk about duckweather I have been dragged by you and anther poster to speak about him:yep

    my initial points where not about him
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

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    Yes they were and it's painfully obvious. Everything you talk about is related to Floyd in some way.
     
  15. texboxing00

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    "For example showtime have invested heavily in the boxing side most casuals assume they are making lots of money and showtime can portray they are doing well but people who understand business and finances know they are telling porkies."-duck_master

    Yea, your not talking about Floyd lol

    $1.2 million? You know the specific number lol, keep talking, you are a joke.

    Its clear you are obviously jealous that this offer was not made to Manny. Your jealous that Manny does not get as much attention, money or the recognition that floyd gets. It must kill you inside when you see the p4p rankings to EVERY SINGLE reputable sports sources only to always see Floyd #1. You never provide any proof to your conspiracies and just blab on and on. If this were true Espinoza would of been let go, showtime wouldn't keep paying him if they are loosing money.


    Pac is great in his own regard, you don't need to compare him to Floyd .