Prime Lennox vs prime Wlad, who you got ?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Foreman, Tyson, all fighters of the 90's I think KTFO Klitchko.

    Just look at the look on Wladimir's face whenever he gets hit period, you are not going to beat A level competition when you react to a punch like Wlad does.
     
  2. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    If Lewis deemed Wlad a threat. He would have bombed him out of there before 5 rounds. High intensity, high aggressiveness. Klitchsko would have tried to clinch, and he would been given a uppercut to Mars. But it all depends how Lennox approached the fight. Wlad could win, if he was underestimated and given enough time to get going with his jab. Pity the fight didn't happen.
     
  3. AnotherFan

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    Wladimir Klitschko is dependent on clinching for his defence, and Lennox Lewis has the size, strength and skill to rough up the big ukrainan badly on the inside. That would probably deside the outcome in a fight where I don't see Wladimir last the distance

    You can't write Wladimir off completly, though. He's fast, box well and has horrifing powerful punches. I can actually see Wladimir outbox Lennox as long as they stay on the outside. If Lennox comes into the ring poorly prepared Wladimir might, just might, catch him before he realises he's in a fight. But even in such a scenario I see Lennox ability to adopt giving him the better odds.

    Lennox KO or TKO Wlad: 70-75%

    Wlad KO Lennox 25-30%
     
  4. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    I think Wlad would have beaten Holyfield and Bowe. In relatively boring close decisions. I am pretty sure Holyfield would have been content to box with Wlad and lose a close SD or a UD. Bowe was only aggressive and an animal if someone bring the fight to him. Wlad would jab and clinch and try to land a right hand maybe once a round. The chances of a KO from either guy could be there but I doubt it.

    90's Version of Foreman will lose a wide UD.

    Tyson is a wild card. He will not be content with boxing Wlad to a decision and it's honestly a toss up.

    That being said, every single one of these fighters mentioned(even Holyfield) have a good chance of landing a big punch which would put Wladimir out cold. I'm not delusional. I think Wlad is a top 10 HW ATG. Not even a debate. But I am also realistic enough to admit Wlad's weaknesses.

    People being blinded by the fact Wlad is Eastern European(on either side of the fence) is pretty sad people. Wlad's an ATG. Wlad is not 'THE ATG'.
     
  5. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    People also have to understand this.When it comes to Heavyweight Boxing? The English speaking Countries will write the history. Not the Eastern European countries. It don't matter how good Wlad is right now, he will be rated as a lesser fighter than his American historic counterparts. Because HW Boxing rise and falls with America's support. I don't care if Wlad makes 2000 Billion dollars, his legacy NEEDS American support. Or 40 years from now, people will just view him as 'that Russian guy who fought for 10 years against other Russian guys'.

    It is what it is. America=HW Boxing's heart and soul.

    Think about it like this.

    Let's say suddenly America becomes very good at soccer and Europe began to suck. Suddenly all the top soccer clubs are full of Americans and they are being played in America. It's not the same.

    It don't matter how good 'FC Dallas' is. It don't matter how good 'LA GALAXY' is.

    They are not playing in Old Trafford. The Nou Camp. San Siro. Anfield. Europe is the heart of soccer. History will always be there.

    America is the heart of HW Boxing. You can't change that. In order to be great. You need the American media.
     
  6. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A pretty good breakdown. Wladimir vs Tyson is clearly the toughest call. I can see Wladimir do his octopus routine and in between land his jab and right hand on Tyson. I can also see Tyson making Wladimir fold like he did against much weaker opponents.

    Lennox is the only boxer of the past I'm confident that would beat Wladimir.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Wlad had the chance to challenge Lennox after Lennox beat Vitali. Sadly old Wlad didn't want to know & went into hiding
    If & its a big IF they met Lennox by early KO
     
  8. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    Harsh on Wlad. Wlad as recovering from a loss against Corrie Sanders. That version of Wlad was shaky as ****. He also got knocked down and struggled against Williamson. People forgot about that.

    Early 2000's Wlad would have been very badly knocked out against Lewis. Very badly. Wlad just had too many flaws PRE-Manny. I wouldn't trust him against anybody PRE-Manny.

    But the Manny version of Wlad and this version of Wlad(thanks to Emmanuel) is a great fighter.
     
  9. Vitalifan9999

    Vitalifan9999 New Member Full Member

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    Lewis. But Prime Vitali will beat Prime Lewis.
     
  10. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only 3 people so far think it would go the distance :think

    I picked Lewis by KO.
     
  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Prime Lewis would destroy Vitali

    Prime Vitali couldn't even beat a Lewis who was fat/undertrained/undermotivated/under the weather/1 year of inactivity :nut
     
  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shot Lewis already beat Prime Vitali.
     
  13. Vitalifan9999

    Vitalifan9999 New Member Full Member

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    That wasn't Prime Vitali. Prime Vitali was the guy who destroyed Dereck Chisora with one arm and the guy who schooled Thomas Adamek. Prime Vitali beats Prime Lewis 10 out of 10 times. Prime Vitali had immense one shot KO Power and Lewis could get knocked out easy by Vitali. Lewis have proven he could not take Vitali's shots. Vitali floored Lewis twice in their fight but ref did not call it.
     
  14. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis turned Vitali's face into a pizza.
    I'm not even sure what the topping was, it got lost in his cheekbone.
     
  15. Germanicus

    Germanicus Active Member Full Member

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    Lewis roughs him up for the KO.