The Secret to Wladimir's Success: Can't be Outboxed, Doesn't actually have a Bad Chin

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simply put, you are not outboxing this guy. He is the Mayweather of heavyweights when it comes to outboxing people. If your game plan is to box with him, it's gonna be a bad night for you. I would argue that he would be favored to outbox virtually any HW in history, but I don't want to bring in the nostalgics who will insist Jou Louis would have used some "old school techniques" to outbox him and stop him in the 14th.

    Second, his chin isn't bad. He DOES NOT have the iron jaw his brother has. That being said, he's a HW. These aren't 126 lb men punching him in the face. Heavyweights get stopped, and stop people more frequently. Two of his three losses were due to fatigue far more than punches. Most importantly, he has never been KO'd.

    His chin is average. No better, no worse.

    His boxing ability is arguably the greatest of any HW we've seen.
     
  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad's secret is that he is the president of the bum of the month club.:yep
     
  3. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say he's hard/very hard to outbox. And he doesn't fight on the inside. So yeah, he's difficult to beat.
     
  4. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    guess his well on his way to being the greatest heavyweight of all time so
     
  5. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he's a coward also:lol:. I can certainly see why his health come first now:lol::patsch.
     
  6. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In terms of size, speed, strength and punching power he stands alone. Added to that he boxes very smart and well. I expect him to beat Joe Louis record of defenses. Wlad has another good 5 years left in him if he really wants maybe even more.
     
  7. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the division is getting very hot eg Fury's,Parker,Joshua,Uysk, and then in the amatuers Omarov, Medzhidov, Savon,Dychko, in 5 years time an aging Wlad might find the going very tough
     
  8. madpuppy

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    If he had a decent chin, he wouldn't box as cautiously as he does. He has awesome skills and physical tools, but he fights ultra cautious, limiting his punches to those which do not expose his chin. The one time I remember he actually got hit in the last 10 years was against Wach and he was clearly shaken up. His chin is poor, I struggle to think how anyone can deny it. Stopped inside the distance 3 times and knocked down 11 times in his career, those numbers speak for themselves.
     
  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If he had an iron chin, he'd be unbeatable.
     
  10. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    According to who?
     
  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    If George Chuvalo had great boxing ability, he'd be unbeatable too. :lol:

    Fact is: Lewis would have easily outboxed him and knocked him spark out. :yep
     
  12. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go back and watch that Wach moment again. Wait for the reverse angle slo mo replay after the round. Wach, a 270+ heavyweight, hits Wlad right down the pike with a lead right hand, snapping Wlads head back. Now, in the replay watch Klitschkos eyes as he is slipping and blocking Wachs attempted follow up attack. He is totally clear, not seeming to be hurt the least, doesnt get hit with a single follow up shot and is in total control of himself the whole time.
    Thanks for bringin up that great example of Wladimir's very decent chin:good
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis would have to make it dirty and destroy Wlad on the inside with hooks when the octopus is trying to hug him.

    Lewis would never land anything from the outside. Wlad's control of range is way too good.
     
  14. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get out of here, brittard.
     
  15. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wach's knock out ratio is barely above 50%, so he isn't a big hitter by any means, so his weight is totally irrelevant, he isn't a not a powerful puncher. The right hand wasn't particularly vicious either and Wlad went to the ropes straight away (which he never does) and just covered up for the remainder of the round until the bell rang. It was smart boxing, but Just shows that Wlad himself has no confidence in his chin.

    Don't you think that 3 stoppages inside the distance and 11 knock downs indicate a weak chin?