http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xopejr4deH4&feature=player_embedded Great Tim Lane interview. I think this is when he knew where the keys to the cage were.
to say the truth what Roach did in shiming fight was dumb also! He was headbuted and later didn't see nothing but he said to him that he had to ko that guy and shiming was taged few times by hard right hands!
That was some of the worst corner training I have seen since Billy Blanks was telling James Toney what to do.