Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What do you mean, no?

    You're telling me that if Wlad had fought Ali, Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Norton and Holmes, that he wouldn't have been matched in hard, competitive fights?

    We must be watching different Wladimir Klitschko's.
     
  2. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is he going to outbox him?

    Wlad has a much, much better command of the Spacing/Range/Sweet Science (i.e. - Hitting without getting hit).

    Wlad knows how to wear out his opposition (e.g. - clinching, continual jabbing).
     
  3. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They probably would be competitive. I would bet that Wlad would be a betting favorite.
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ali would just play with Wlad making him look a fool then when he got tired of playing Ali would stop Wlad roud 6 or7
     
  5. Loudon

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    Ali wouldn't have needed power to make him fall back.

    He could have made him very hesitant, by his footwork.

    By making him miss, and making him off balance, and then countering him before he had time to set himself.

    A peak Ali was in great shape.

    He could stay on his toes for 15 rounds.

    He wouldn't have needed a knockout.

    He'd have kept the fight in the centre of the ring, and would have stayed away from the ropes.
     
  6. dinovelvet

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    Why couldn't Wlad blast out Haye in 90 seconds like Tyson done Spinks?

    Spinks was a far greater fighter than Haye.

    Haye was Wlads Spinks but he could only nip him here and there and left it to the judges to get the win.

    Tyson would have destroyed Haye in the first.

    Thats shows the overall level of this era of Heavy weights.
     
  7. brb

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    Wlad rarely misses and if he does, he usually is not off balance.

    How is Ali going to keep the fight in center of the ring?
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Would Wlad have had the time to set himself, to have landed jabs?

    Could he have clinched a guy who moved like a LHW, darting in and out of range and feinting etc?

    I don't think so.
     
  9. brb

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    Spinks was a natural LHW. He didn't have either the speed or power Haye had.

    I do think Tyson would have beaten Haye, but probably not in the 1st round. Haye would probably do the same thing he did with Wlad.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Poor mans Ali and non punching Willaimson beat Wlad so you have no argument that ties into reality.

    Wlad was clueless against basic movement modelled after Ali.

    Manny Steward - Don't worry he's no Ali

    A few rounds later Wlad quit:rofl
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What was that? Stand there with his back to the ropes? And you think he could survive Tyson for 12 rounds doing that?

    Klitschko fans:nut
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    There is no 'probably'

    Come on now.

    Let's get real.

    They would have been extremely competitive fights.

    He would have had a nightmare with a peak version of Larry Holmes.

    Foreman had the power to have knocked him out.

    Frazier would have brought relentless pressure.

    Ali had the speed.

    Liston had a great jab, and was extremely tough.


    This is where Wlad gets extremely overrated.
     
  13. Monty90

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    Williamson was a very hard puncher with his right hand, miles harder than Ali. Also Wlad beat him.. ?!
     
  14. brb

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    It's not like Wlad is some stationary target. He moves in and out rather quickly. If you notice, Wlad doesn't need much time to set himself regardless of punch.

    Wlad has good timing. It takes one punch to change the whole fight around and Wladimir Klitschko has that type of speed, power & technique to land on the most elusive fighters.
     
  15. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you do me a favor? Can you go to a legitimate boxing site that has the official results of that fight and let me know what it says?