The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This ^
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The pathetic POS woman beating coward will price himself out of fighting Paquaio. Yet again cowardice rears its ugly head.
    Floyd hasn't got the ***** to fight anywhere but Vegas where he knows he really cannot lose. That's against any fighter not Manny Paquaio
    How anyone still supports that creep astounds me If I was Manny I'd just say screw Floyd Ive got my legacy secured take easy fights a la Floyd till you retire. Its POS Mayweather whose legacy is shot. Hell the cretin cannot even get any to sponsor him no one wants him promoting their products.
    Manny = ATG Mayweather = cowardly wanna be
     
  3. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is going to fight Manny on the inside.....and that will be all she wrote, Pac has no inside game.
     
  4. TJ Max

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    I don't think you understand.

    Mayweather would have too much distance to cover in order to clinch with Pacquaio effectively.

    Of course, the occasional clinch will happen, naturally, but it won't be an effective strategy.

    What I mean by distance is, Pacquiao's southpaw stance means his power hand is always in position to land if Floyd takes an alternating step forward with his right foot.

    Floyd does this often against southpaws, but Pacquaio will simply step back and bang Mayweather with an uppercut or he'll rotate and fire combinations.

    Mayweather will get busted up if he wants to initiate a clinch strategy.

    It has nothing to do with his size. His size is irrelevant. It's useless against Pacquaio, considering Mayweather's style.

    Mayweather is not going to come forward and impose his will on Pacquaio, so size, at least in that regard is meaningless.

    Mayweather will have to fight a perfect fight. He'll have to keep Pacquaio at the end of his jab, counter Pacquaio on the way in and quickly rotate whenever possible.

    If he can do that, he can win. If not, he'll get caught on the ropes, busted up, try to initiate clinches, get busted up, or try his pull counter which Manny will counter with his own straight left and get busted up.

    This is not an easy fight. Mayweather has a tendency to fight aggressively against southpaws; however, he did fight defensively against Guerrero.

    The problem is, Guerrero is the opposite of explosive. I mean, the guy didn't have a fast twitch muscle on his entire body.

    Pacquaio is a ball of fast twitch muscles.

    It will be competitive, no doubt.
     
  5. TJ Max

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    Lol.

    Really?

    How do you expect Floyd to get on the inside vs Pac? Do you anticipate that he'll impose his size? Do you believe Pacquiao will have lead feet for this fight?
     
  6. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no offer out there you idiot. I hope that you're not talking about the fake Espinoza claimed offer that he later retracted. You f.lomos have more trouble reading than Floyd Jr.
     
  7. prelude

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    Don't say that because the Gurerro fight got many Flowmos petrified for Floyd.
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bull**** Showtime are losing $$$$ over Mayweather that's obvious with them having to cancel Showbox. They realize now what a mistake they made signing a loser. If they could take it back bel;ieve me they would
     
  9. Code Red

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    Manny lunges in, throws his one two, and after that he is completely open and vulnerable to an inside fighter, a good fighter can outbox Manny on the outside but an even better fighter can outbox him on the inside. Floyd is on a different level, once he see's a weakness he will exploit and manny's weaknesses are clear to see
     
  10. TJ Max

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    Let me put this into perspective for some of you dummies.

    Bradley CAN fight on the inside and is effective, gets low, and is hard to land on cleanly due to his style and skill.

    He also has ***** of steel.

    He attempted to utilize an inside fighting strategy against Pacquaio, and it didn't work. It will definitely not work for Mayweather because it's not Mayweather's bread and butter for THIS fight.

    Stylistically, physically, it wouldn't work.

    Mayweather has to use his reach and box effectively on the outside. He can't throw many punches. He has to make it a boring fight and slow down the pace.
     
  11. lepinthehood

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    Thats the way i see it Code Red, he was lunging in and was open too counters all night long.
     
  12. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you just compare Bradley to Mayweather?
     
  13. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That remains to be seen, every time they've negotiated the same people who talk about being willing to do anything make complaints of why so an so is right for turning down the fight. All this bs about being fair and what's right according to whoever needs to go out the window you say your willing to do whatever it takes then do it.

    the way people ***** you'd think Manny actually got asked to fight for $4 and with a hand tied behind his back, the dude is turning down stuff any other fighter even legends would kill to have.
     
  14. TJ Max

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    Wrong.

    Manny throws and rotates.

    He did it often last night. You call it lunging, but his feet are still in position to quickly rotate and maintain defense.

    In reality it's stepping, which is not the same thing.

    Is it risky, yes, but so is throwing a meaningless arm punch with nothing behind it.

    Which one would you rather be hit by? Which one would you rather hit your opponent with?

    You have to decide what risk to take in boxing.

    Lunging is what Floyd did against Victor Ortiz where he actually stepped completely forward with his right foot.

    He did this also against Guerrero who managed to counter effectively with a left uppercut.

    Pacquaio is on another level with that counterpunch and numerous other punches he could opt to throw when Mayweather lunges in.

    Clearly, Manny is hard to beat on the inside because Bradley had an excellent game plan in trying to counter Pacquaio by coming from low to high.

    Unfortunately for Bradley, Pacquaio's speed and footwork was too much.

    If Mayweather tried to utilize a similar style it would be hilarious because Pacquaio would put his lights out.

    If only Mayweather would take your advice.
     
  15. C.J.

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    The reason the fight should NOT be held in Vegas is obvious. There is no way in hell Paquaio would get a level playing field.
    The commission & their officials are Floyds homies they let him do as he wants. This has been proven in recent fights there.
    Make the fight away rom Vegas with honest officials & a levelk playing field. But its only a pipe dream Floyd only fights when he knows he cannot lose
     
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