Klitschkos vs Mike Tyson

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Derek Chisora just showed the world how Vitali Klitschko could be beaten. Problem was, Chisora didn’t have the proper tools to do the job. He is not a devastating puncher, and he couldn’t get his timing on his shots. But one thing he showed is that he managed to get into effective firing range, only he didn’t fire any shot when there were openings, and believe me, there were a lot. He said it himself in the interview after the fight – “When I got inside, though, I wasn’t working.” But he showed that his upper body movement unexpectedly presented Vitali Klitschko with difficulties. He made Klitschko miss most of his shots. Right hooks on the inside in particular. They just hit the air over Chisora’s head.

    Viltali Klitschko never, in his whole career faced the likes of a Smokin’ Joe, or an Iron Mike, and when faced with a poor version in Dereck Chisora, he was faced with difficulties. He never had that swollen red area on his left side. He missed a lot of his shots when he’s known as a surgically precise puncher. It can be said a trillion times, but the meaning and significance of the phrase will never diminish, “styles makes fights” will always hold true.

    Now, Tyson’s body movements are significantly quicker than those of Chisora’s, making him harder to hit, hence more effective. A lower Mike Tyson, bobbing and weaving, being smaller, hence, being harder target to hit, getting into range, firing those right hooks to the body, will eventually hurt Vitali. Mike Tyson in his full prime before Cus D’Amato’s death, the sliding, bobbing, weaving, peek-a-boo Mike Tyson, I see Iron Mike prevailing over Dr. Ironfist.
    Wlad is severely overrated. He was 22 when He was whupped by THE GREAT Ross Puritty. Who went on to beat... Oh yeah Puritty was a journeyman. But I've actually heard people argue he could beat Tyson. Based on what? The fact that he was slow as **** and had a glass jaw?
    Washed up Tyson vs prime Francoise Botha → Tyson wins by KO5

    Wladimir Klitschko vs fat and old Francoise Botha → Wladimir wins by KO 8

    Sorry but even 1999 Tyson was better than Prime Wlad.
    The speed, power and ferocity of a prime Mike Tyson stops Klitschko in the second round.

    The first round is rather cautious, with Wladimir on the outside and Tyson patiently stalking. Tyson unloads late in the first round, with the bell saving Klitschko. The next round is the last as Klitschko is floored twice and fails to get up.

    A flaw of Wladimir's is his predictable attack. Tyson figures this out early and takes advantage of it.
     
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  2. tommytheduke

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    Both Klitschkos are too big sized for Tyson.
     
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  3. Brixton Bomber

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    Complete and utter nonsense.

    Mike, for a small guy, had no problems with tall guys.

    People talk about the K.Bros like they are stone-cold killers. Vital is completely overrated. From his power to his chin, he is overrated. Mike with 3-5, as Vitali is made for Mike.

    Wladimir is the better of the two but is still slow as sh*t compared to Tyson. Look what Sanders did to him! Now imagine that's an 18 year old Mike Tyson in there instead of Sanders... Daaaaaaamn!

    Mike would the pair of them on the same night in his prime.
     
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  4. Azzer85

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    i agree.

    Vitali is severely overrated, put in Tyso. Of the Ribalta fight vs the Vitali from the Sanders fight and Tyson tears him a new hole.

    Wlad, depends. Hes got the size and toolset to make it to the final bell if he hugs and hugs like he normally does. If/when he opens up, hes going to sleep.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58aMy4MzVsU
     
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  5. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson was the 3rd best fighter of his era, behind Lewis, and Holyfield, who both had a field day with him:lol:, Mikey was 0-3 against both of them:deal, AND WAS STOPPED ALL 3 TIMES, and please don't play the he was past his best prime:-( it won't fly brotha!!!

    Holyfield was about 5 years past his prime in 96, with major heart problems to boot..

    Lennox was about 3 years past his prime in 2002, and was slower and also older than Tyson as was Holyfield..

    Both Klitchkos would have busted Tyson's fragile hole, and im not even a Klitchko fan...

    If a 42-1 dog in Douglas whipped his ass that bad, closed his eye and dropped him, both Klitchkos would have been arrested for assault...

    Tyson IS THE MOST OVER-RATED HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING...:deal
     
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  6. Azzer85

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    Last time i checked, Tyson despite being a shell of his former self....still lasted longer than a prime Vitaliti did against Lewis.

    How old was Wladmir when he got knocked the **** out by Purritt?

    he was 22, same age as Tyson, the only difference was Douglas didn't have 12 losses like Purrity did.

    oh and by the way Tyson did demolish Etienne in one round, you know Clifford Etienne? The one who beat Lamont Brewster, same Brewster who went on to knock Wladmir the **** out .

    And finally, lets just ignore the fact that Tyson fought Holyfield after only 8 rounds in 5 years, with most of those spent in prison and not to mention Tyson was 14 years past his peak when he fought Lewis.

    if anyone is overrated its the Klitsckos, especially Vitali. Tyson wasn't the one who got slapped across the face, Vitalis reaction to that slap pretty much explains who he was, a bully who always quit when the goingot tough
     
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  7. TheOldTimer

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    Tyson was a giant killer all 250 pounds means to Tyson is a larger target, at his best Tyson was a superb technical boxer and an utterly devastating puncher.
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I don't usually agree with Azzer but I might as well when he's right. Let me add that with all due respect to Douglas he didn't face the real Tyson. Just the name. Messed up Tyson almost knocked out Douglas. Prime Tyson would've knocked out Douglas brutally
    There was a million things wrong with Mike, not only that night but in the fights leading to Douglas. First off after the Spinks fight Tyson fired Kevin Rooney, in his very next fight against Frank Bruno you could see a different Tyson, he had a new team around him that didn't force him to do road work anymore, something Mike hated to do. They didn't work on combinations instead just going in to take a guys head off. Without Rooney he was partying more, doing drugs and if he didn't want to train one day nobody said boo to him. By the time the Douglas fight came off Tyson was hardly training anymore, he almost completely stopped his road work which affected his stamina. They completely underestimated Douglas and had no game plan other then to take his head off, his inexperienced corner did not know what to tell Mike when the fight wasn't going as expected. So lack of training, no game plan, over confidence and an amateur corner where Mikes problems also he only showed up in Japan days before the fight, not even enough time to adjust your body clock, same thing happened to Lewis is Africa.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

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    Tyson was made to beat taller fighters. He was trained to beat taller fighters.
     
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  10. dan4579

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    This is sooo not true. I don't know why people keep repeating this myth. Mike did MUCH better against smaller heavyweights than he did the big ones. Not that he got his ax whipped every time he faced a large decent heavy, but it often went to decision. That's what makes this debate interesting.
    A lot of people like to say Mike would blow Wlad out of the ring, but if u look at his fights against big guys, none of them as good as a Klitschko, it's obvious there is no basis for that thought
     
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  11. Azzer85

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    the reason it went the distance was because the bigger guys very quickly realised that was their only hope of survival.

    Seeing as Wlad hugs 90% of his opponents anyway, due to fear, what makes you think he will turn up fearless against the most intimidating fighter ever?

    there's a reason why people feared Mike Tyson, Wlad would find out as soon as he opens up
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Interesting. So Larry Holmes isn't as good as the Klitschkos. :huh
    I'm not even that big of a Tyson fan but I can see this a mile away.
     
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  13. Wass1985

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    Tyson wouldn't be able to handle the beating Purrity received by Wlad to turn it around, he was knocked out by feather fisted Douglas remember, Wlad's power is on another level.

    Both brothers would stop Tyson, the only chance Tyson has is against Wlad if he catches him early, knocking Vitali out.. Forget it.
     
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  14. ForemanJab

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    Not a knockout:http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3921226

    Now that's a knockout:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ08eWV4ME:deal

    Surely you can discern the difference between a TKO trainer stoppage and a KO?:think

    Can you give me your scorecard for both fights?

    Plus you would be remiss to forget that Tyson was KO'd in the middle of his championship prime. Klitschko's defeat came years before the general consensus on what was to be known as his prime.
    Of course one can't expect truth or objectivity from some random anonymous Tyson groupie on a boxing forum. :hi:
     
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  15. Warwick Hunt

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    I think Wlad in particular would **** himself facing Tyson. Lets face it he wasn't prepared to go on the offensive and mix it with a passive and wary David Haye.
    I'm not underrating Wlad here because I respect and admire what he's done in his career but I think Tyson knocks him spark out.
     
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