Why didn't Lennox Lewis carry his power to the late rounds?

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  1. Savak

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    Eddie futch made the call to not send his fighter out for round 15. Vitali and his corner were all game on this occasion.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    So what? Are any of them doctors in medicine?

    Are you really telling me you're fine risking the long term health of a fighter you obviously admire.. this is bizarre.

    Why not ask yourself it Vitali was so much better than Lewis, why did the fight go past the 6th round?

    Why did Vitali loose the 6th round?

    And what was he going to do to be able to change the circumstances of the fight that he wasn't able to do leading up to the stoppage?
     
  3. Savak

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    Lewis threw everything he had in round 6 and Vitali was still standing there inspite of the cut after eating his upper cuts. Vitalis conditioning was superior, it was Lewis who was out of gas and slumped to his chair like a man who had thrown everything he had. This is what all the boxing commentators picked up on.

    If anything it was Lewis who was in no position to finish the fight, Vitali was leading and lewis desperately needed the knock down and out of the two Vitali was more capable to knock out chinny Lewis in the next couple of rounds.

    You have still not answered why did lewis take Tyson to court for a rematch and in the same year retire out of fear of having to face Vitali again? Isn't it clear he was more scared of the latter than the former and was warry of potential defeat?
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    If Lewis was so chinny why couldn't Vitali knock him out? Especially after he had him hurt in the 2nd round.

    If Lewis was so tired why did he win the 6th round, and he won it big time?

    How many times in his career did Lewis fail to finish a fight because he was tired?

    How many champs retired and give you their belts because they were tired?

    You're grasping at straws.

    Of course Lewis thought Vitali was a tougher opponent than Tyson at that point of time. Anyone who watched the two fights could easily see that. The difference is that Tyson signed a contract for a rematch, but there was never any contract signed for a rematch between Vitali and Lewis.

    You might be shocked to know that boxing is a business, and at that point of time the risk-reward for Lewis was certainly a rematch against Tyson rather than Vitali. No one is disputing this but regardless, Vitali was given a fair change to beat Lewis and he came up short. That ends up being the bottom line.
     
  5. Savak

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    His conditioning was pretty bad for this match, he threw everything he had and wasted his punches, he had nothing left in the tank for round seven and beyond, just because he won the sixth round doesn't mean he won the fight, he was trailing pretty badly on the scorecards.

    Lewis was pretty chinny as his one shot to the head kos prove from mediocre punchers. He made up for it for the most part with his superior all round boxing ability, height and reach advantages which I admire.

    You are not making sense. He wasn't going to be paid peanuts for the rematch which was $18m, he chickened out like a coward from the rematch as you admit indirectly in the risk reward reference. Lewis never wanted a rematch, if he wanted it he could have made it happen. He ran away unlike the previous legends who never ran away from rematches.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

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    This is coming from Vitali himself, who said it was Lewis' mum who put a stop to the rematch. End of story unless you're going to call Vitali a liar.

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/mar/10/vitali-klitschko-lennox-lewis-mum


    Vitali Klitschko has revealed how Lennox Lewis's mother stopped him getting a rematch with the former world heavyweight champion.
    Lewis beat Klitschko in June 2003 in controversial circumstances, retaining his WBC title when the fight was stopped after the sixth round in Los Angeles. The Ukrainian had a deep cut above his left eye but led on the judges' scorecards when officials ruled he could not continue. In the referee's opinion the cut had been caused by a punch, which meant that Lewis was automatically declared the winner.
    If it had been ruled that the cut had been caused by a headbutt, Klitschko would have won the title as he was ahead on the scorecards at the time.
    Plans for an eagerly anticipated rematch never materialised, with Klitschko yesterday offering an interesting explanation for why that was the case. "Lennox promised me but his mum decided he wasn't going to fight," said the 38-year-old ahead of the Laureus World Sports Awards in Abu Dhabi. "He invited me to London, without managers. He said he wanted to talk just together. I came to the room and his mum is there. We talked for two hours and his mum was looking at me and scanning me.
    "After that I went away and he called me a couple of hours later and said, 'Sorry, but no'. I felt it wasn't his decision, his mum decided.
     
  7. Savak

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    I knew this, it was well known that Lewis was stopped by his family who were rightly concerned for his well being based on the ass whooping he got in that match and was going to get in the future match. Lewis was an adult wasn't he? Could he not have said this is my final match and then I am out for good? He and his family rightfully feared the inevitable from the rematch and hence he chose to save face and retire.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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  9. Vanboxingfan

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    Go ahead, post a picture of them both right after the fight, and then tell me who got the ass whooping. Hell you can even put up a poll and see what others think as to who got the ass whooping. Come on be a man and take me up on this if you think you're right.

    It was Vitali who needed dozen's and dozen's of stitches, not Lewis. It was Vitali who was cut about the eye, below the eye and in the mouth, which Lewis had a small cut on the bridge of his nose that I don't believe required any medical attention at all. I know sometimes reality sucks but you can argue for another 10 years and it's not going to change the outcome of the fight.

    Vitali didn't even win the last round and yet going forward he was going to win the fight? Not likely and forget the scorecards, that fight, had it continued, would never have gone to the scorecards regardless of who won it.
     
  10. Foxy 01

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    Does ESB advertise for posters in " The Fvcking Lunatic Weekly?" It must do, when you look at some of the re****ed posts on here.

    A prime Vitali Klitchko LOST to an unconditioned, lazy, fat, unprepared, worst version of Lewis,( outside of Rahman 1 ) you could imagine. Yet STILL you have morons on here who keep trying to convince themselves the Ukrainian fvckwit was ( a ) unlucky, or ( b ( ) entitled to a rematch.

    These peoples mothers, are perhaps their sisters, is the only explanation for such imbecility I can think of.
     
  11. Flurry

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    this is the sort of bad post that drags this whole section down. Subjective opinion is passed on as fact, disagreers are called lunatics or imbeciles. If i was a mod here I'd do something about it.

    Of course vitali was entitled for a rematch, and of course LL looked like a coward never giving him said rematch

    I dont see why Lewis was any worse prepared than Klitschko, actually Klitschko had to jump in at short notice, having prepared for another bout himself.
     
  12. Big Ukrainian

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    lewis didn't have the greatest stamina and he was ahead on points in all his long fights ive seen.

    lewis v vitali was clearly stopped at the right time.
    vitali being classless and acting like he won despite having been stopped was a d1ck move, I wouldn't have wanted to give him a rematch after that.
     
  14. Big Ukrainian

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    Lewis wasn't ahead against Mercer till the late rounds, and vs Holy 2 fight was very close after 8 rounds, but they have ATG chins so we can't blame Lewis for not being able to stop them.
     
  15. Foxy 01

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    TKO 6 is NOT subjective opinion. It is a fact, and Klitchko fans can scream and shout about it until the cows come home. Their opinions mean nothing.