Is Liston a top 20 Atg?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Imo he is in the top 5.
     
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    Possibly. There can't be that many more people in history that could have beaten him in the ring.
     
  5. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Liston's top 5 in my opinion.
    I think on his best day he could have beaten almost anyone.
    The Ali fights are a stigma, but they both were tainted.
     
  6. heavy_handss

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    OF course that no, he did nothing in his carreer, overrated like hell, tell me what great fighters would Not have beaten TO patterson and Williams and tell me what great fighter would have lost TO marty Marshall or would get knocked out Cold BY the bum leotis martin?
     
  7. heavy_handss

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    You cant prove it so WE just can talk about WE SAW OF him, he did beat nobody, he is not in the top 20
     
  8. heavy_handss

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    Lmao
     
  9. Rock0052

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    Given that the Ali fights were tainted, but Sonny had mafia handlers for essentially his entire career, does this mean we should also look at some of his wins with the same critical eye?

    Putting myself in the mafia's shoes, it makes a heck of a lot more sense (and cents) to get your mitts on a fighter who legitimately hits hard so when you bet on and fix a fight to end in a certain round, it looks much more legitimate.

    Just playing devil's advocate here. When you're involved with those types of people early on, why would they wait until the very end to intervene in your career?
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    what's your top 20?
     
  11. heavy_handss

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    Not in order, i put all these guys over him. Ali, Louis, frazier , foreman, tyson, evander, lewis, Vitali, wladimir, Holmes , marciano, Charles, walcott, schmeling, Johnson, dempsey, tunney, langford , sulivan, jefries
     
  12. heavy_handss

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    Even norton deserves being ranked higher with his victory over ali and probably 2 wins,
     
  13. janitor

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    I think you would have to put him inside the top 10 at heavyweight, but where exactly is open to considerable interpretation.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Can you please give us a rundown on how Langford is higher than sonny?
     
  15. heavy_handss

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    langford was not just a much better fighter at hw but pfp was miles above liston, and please, stop saying "us". like i told you, nobody support your stupid opinion.