Is Liston a top 20 Atg?

Gee I don't know. What great fighter would have gotten knocked out by Al Iovino? Oh that's right! Henry Armstrong.....

 

you really are swag

 

the mini frazier had more great fights in carrer than liston in 10 lifes,

 

Liston would park Foremans ass

 

Doesn't matter. Your point was that if someone gets KO'd by a bum then they're worthy of scorn. My Armstrong-Iovino example proves you wrong. Or is this something else you'll not be man enough to admit? Was this another "mistake of memory"?

 

no, my point was that liston did absolutely nothing in his career besides beating a fragile lhw and a bum with a left hook, plus he lost by ko against a bum. armstrong proved his great class in tons of fights(very good fights, even if he had some defeat), bad example my little simpleton, liston has no mercy because his career was mediocre.

 

foreman at his best would knock liston out the monday and then he would ko tyson the sunday

 

I cannot fathom not having Liston top 20.

You can say much of his competitionw as weak. Though that is also a charge leveled at virtually every HW, & it is very hard to find great fighters in their primes to beat. But it has SOME truth to it.

Yet if we consider his overall record & head to head, I would think it controversial & could hear arguments on either side if he is top 10, no way top 20.

This should be a poll.

 

Foreman: They all ran, Ali just lay on the ropes. Frazier, he thought he was tough but he ended up running. Sonny Liston, he was the only one that pushed me back.