Tyson all but admits he would not beat the Klitschko's

This proves only one thing you're a klitschko ass-licker.

 

I was more referring to Tysons mentality, nowadays hed probably say even Seldon could beat him, his mentality has become extremely passive. In 85-91 he would have stated a more honest opinion. Remember this is the same guy who said his undisputed titles meant nothing and were just a load of rubbish.

People would still call him an *******

 

I think you'll find Tyson says 'I don't know' quite a lot, just like some people say 'you know what im saying'. Its just the way Tyson speaks.

It doesn't sound like he has doubt, it reads more like Tyson is struggling to come across in a polite way and cant find the right words to say.

 

He'd have a good chance vs pre 04 Wlad, not sure about Vitali though.

 

Aren't you doing the same? And then you post that Tyson all but admits he'd lose to the Klits when he never said such. Kinda weird, dude.

 

Yet you take all his excuses for his ass kickings as gospel, double standards much...

 

I don't think it's all that uncommon for a fighter in his late 40's to say he doesn't know how he would do against today's current greats, especially considering the size difference. He said right after losing to Lewis that he could never have beaten him. Truthfully I don't think he has a whole lot of advantages against the either the Klitschko's or Lewis, even in his prime, but that doesn't mean he couldn't win, when the advantages he did have were speed and aggression, and perhaps power. Those are exactly the attributes a smaller fighter would want.

 

well....arent you doing the exact same thing with this thread? Telling us how Tyson thinks?

as i said before Tyson says 'i dont know' quote a lot in his interviews.

 

Oh, what a shame. All the little Tyson fanboys getting their knickers in a twist, because he didn't have the confidence to say " I'd have fancied my chances if the Klitchko's had fought in my era. "

And that is NOT being disrepectful, just being confident.

 

Playing by the rules is what the greats do; because greatness is much a matter of character, not mere protoplasm. Cheats see principle as dreaming, think they're smart, but in the end screw only themselves.

Henry Aaron: 755. Barry Bonds? Who the hell cares.
Ali: Enough said. 'Roided superheavies since Evan Fields?: BAH!

Your statement on drugs in sports since the '60s may be accurate for NFL football, bodybuilding, and professional wrestling - circus spectacles of the sort - but certainly not for boxing. Any elementary knowledge of boxing history disabuses of any such notion.

Unfortunately, steroids entered the boxing world on Rocky Balboa's oversized-robe tails in the later '80s - when boxing began imitating celluloid fiction, instead of the other way around - but, in 30 years, we have not witnessed one single great heavyweight on the level of Dempsey, Louis, Ali, Holmes and Tyson. Just shiny, impressively puffed up performers, who somehow lack the substance, story, pull, and plain performance skills to get butts in the seats, to put boxing on the map, to shock the world.

Isn't it amazing that scrawny shrimps like Dempsey, Louis, Ali, and Tyson can command worldwide passion, yet Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos - no matter how big and powerful - rouse but yawns of boredom, indifference, disdain?

Why the hell? Because they are counterfeit products and, as far as boxing greatness goes, people are just not going to be duped.

A truly great heavyweight shows amazing skills since he is a teenager, and is clearly headed for a professional career and the title. In the process, he begins showing the qualities that will make him great: dedication, passion, the charisma of self-knowledge, self-confidence, self-possession. He is clearly on another level, in the ring and among mere mortals out of the ring, and people gravitate towards that.

A great heavyweight does not in his mid-20s or so suddenly show a quantum leap from good qualities to amazing qualities and continue getting better and better, bigger and bigger, stronger and stronger, into his late 30s and even 40s, unless of course he's on the juice.

The former is the pattern of the true greats; the latter, of the forgettables of today.

PEDs have brought fortune to some; but they have not provided us with any lasting good. We don't need such garbage. We need old- fashioned blood, sweat and tears.

Champions are not made in gyms, said Ali. Nor in the lab.

Which is why I will always take every opportunity to speak out against the dishonest use of PEDs in our sport, a calling that demands integrity, no cheats need apply.

"Clean fighting, no drugs, food and water - the basics." Iron Mike Tyson

 

Anyone that has moved in athletic circles knows the reality of the situation. Even somebody with a basic rudimentary understanding of training and physiology. Tyson is a laughable example to use as a drug free athlete. He has always been one of the main reps of the steroid era. Mike has retained very little size or muscularity down the years, he never built a natural base. But I don't want to single Mike out, he was a very gifted boxer with unique traits and bears no more burden than anybody else. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Perspectives are very skewed in regards to boxing and it's supposed noble aspirations. From Dempsey through Ali , through Holyfield, you are talking about individuals who are happy to give opponents brain damage, abuse recreational drugs/alcohol, commit adultery, wife beating et cetera but have a moral problem with performance enhancement? Please...

Drug usage has never interested me either from a bodybuilding perspective or a sporting perspective but that's not the norm. The reality is that nowadays, you walk in to any gym and the 15 year old kids are getting hook ups, let alone professional athletes whose sole purpose is physical improvement.

 

I think Mike has mellowed with age. Just being thoughtful and showing humility.

Turn the clock back to when he was 20 years old in top fighting form and you get a different response.

 

What a crock of horse****. Tyson weighed over 200 pounds of solid muscle when he was in his early teens. As of less than a year ago he was weighing 220 to 230 and by all accounts in great shape (right at his prime fight weight). One can easily see in his interviews where wears a T shirt that he still retains large biceps and forearms. Tyson was simply a genetic freak from day one and this is backed up by the guys who knew him before he ever dreamed of getting into professional sports and hence the need to use steroids.