Tyson all but admits he would not beat the Klitschko's

Body composition, no comparison. Not going to get in a debate with someone who doesn't bodybuild. Not gonna start ragging on Mike, one of my favourite fighters.

 

Ok, whatever, as if you know anything about me. As if Mike ever was a bodybuilder. As if youve seen Mike with his shirt off in the last ten years. LOL. But hey, lets just throw out completely baseless accusations, what the hell right. I think I'll stand by my ascertion that when a kid who is 13 or 14 years old and is freakishly huge and ripped and strong enough to hold his own with grown professional fighters adds ten years+ of dedicated training (and most people agree that when Tyson was Tyson nobody trained as hard as he did) hes going to get great results. But you keep pretending like his weight, build, musculature, size, strength, endurance etc saw dramatic overnight changes that would foretell steroid use. Oh wait, none of that happened. Well then lets pretend that he dramatically reduced in size and musculature when his career was over... Oh wait that didnt happen either. Instead he got fat as a pig and then lost 100 pounds and went on a vegan diet. That combined with the simple fact that humans naturally lose muscle every year beginning in some men in your twenties and the fact that he no longer trains as a professional athlete easily accounts for the relatively minor loss of tone you see. But youre an expert bodybuilder so you know better :roll:

 

Synth I was going to encapsulate a reply but klompton2 gave an airtight, thorough case.

I can only add that you have alluded to character flwas in fighters, but have not shown that they are more often criminals or have the pathologies stated-than the general population.

There is really zero reason to believe Tyson used, though anyone COULD have.
Nothing about either his size per bone structure nor rapidity of gains,\ or when he got larger is at all suspect.

By the way I have lifted for years, can send you plenty of good links about absolute natural muscular potential. And per year (diminishing returns over times), adjusted for bone structure & height, strength capacities, etc...

 

He could have been on steroids at 13.
You're right in saying he was a genetic freak. But then many athletes are, AND they use steroids.

Also, I find it very unlikely that he went his whole career without using something.
He's hardly a poster boy for anti-drugs OR fair play in sports. Or maybe he is.

 

Tyson had stated himself that if he was fighting in the modern era he would use "the growth hormones".
I think it's likely that he used something at some time or another.
I think it's likely of a large number of elite heavyweights in the modern era.

People forget that steroids weren't even illegal in boxing.
Even as late as 1992, Jose Sulaiman stated that the WBC would not strip a champion for using steroids ! And didn't expressly forbid their use.

I'm sure many champions of the 1970s and '80s used steroids without even knowing it. In training camps, fighters take the occasional injection and pill when the trainer/doctor says so, it's hardly worthy of remembering. When it's painkiller, something for energy, something for recovery. Not many fighters will make a fuss if it's only a shot once a week or whatever.
Look at Ali, he was open to taking all sorts of pills if a doctor said so.
It's only since the late 1980s (Seoul Olympics) that the "steroids" hysteria and stigma of "cheating" really gained ground in sports.

 

I would roughly agree with the comments that there is nothing in Tyson's physique that proves use of anabolic agents.
While he is huge and stocky, he's not at all beyond what his natural genetic potential might provide.
I mean, he's relatively normal even compared to some bloated juiced-up local bouncers you might know, nevermind a top-level bodybuilder.

A notable exception that, to me, suggests some "different ingredient", is the appearance of his physique in the Peter McNeeley fight, just 4 months after he emerged somewhat underweight from jail.
Something was different about Tyson's look there. The abs, the definition. Not before or since did he look like that.

 

I'd put money on that Tyson juiced in his career and I wouldn't be surprised if he used them earlier on as well, saying that plenty of other fighters in that era would have juiced so it holds no relevance.

 

Me and you are two sides of the same coin Mendoza

 

Oh whatever you ****ing ****! "Tyson used pot as PED" LOL. ****ing idiot. Keep the moronic racist posts that have no basis in reality coming. "Gunboat Smith knocked out Jack Johnson in an exhibition" "Tyson admitted he couldnt beat the Klitchkos" "Terry McGovern-Joe Gans wasnt fixed" "Corrie Sanders hit harder than Tyson" "Schmeling has a better legacy than Liston" "Dempsey beats Wills" "Klitchko beats Foreman" "Jeffries knocks out Frazier" "Orlin Norris' comical dive to Klit was actually a legit KO" Notice a pattern there. Skin pigmentation always seems to make a major difference in your argument.

 

Seriously?

Anyhow, your boy Vitaly took the old anabolic stuff. Not just for the nerves that one.

But some ganja might have benefitted his younger brother at times.

 

Don't think young Tyson took anything like steroids or anything. He was always a physical freak, as is well documented. In his second career he might have taken something, but it didn't really help him did it? And I see no reason to believe he cheated with that more than Holy, Lewis etc did. Evan Fields certainly was roided up, at least.

 

Tyson was a crackhead, but not a ped user.

The only time you could accuse Tyson of maybe taking something was the second Holyfield fight, but Holyfield himself said, when they used to train together Mike was the only one who trained harder than he did.

 

He was by far the most blatant.

Tyson from a young age was always a fat kid, fat kids who train hard always develop much bigger muscles, its the skinny guys who suddenly walk around looking like Arnold Schwarznegger are the ones you need to be wary of.

E.g Evander Holyfield. Compare this guy from 91 to 96 and tell me hes not on peds.