Current Wlad would have dominated any of Lewis's past opponents.

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad won every round he wasn't knocked down in against Peter and two of the knockdowns were illegal. He then also dominated the rematch.

    Wlad was in a unique position being that he had a dominant sibling in the division who Sanders chose to fight and lost to making him no longer a serious contender. Wlad rematched Brewster and dominated the fight.

    Look you can pick apart any fighters resume if you try hard enough. Lewis never fought a southpaw for instance and was believed to be terrible against them. No Moorer, Byrd, Sanders on his ledger. He never got off the canvas to win a fight etc.

    Wlad has 17 title defenses and counting hasn't lost for a decade and has barely been challenged. Great is great.
     
  2. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Not because he didn't try....
     
  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    McCall was a crying mess when Lewis rematched him. The 'fight' was a joke, McCall came straight from drug rehab. I am not sure why you give him credit for that, but you don't give Wlad credit for rematching Brewster?
     
  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see a strong case that Wlad is better than Lewis, Lewis beat one ATG in their peak and that was Vitali and that was controversial.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    V. Klitschko vs. Odum, how would it have gone? :think

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/images/_PT24934-1.jpg
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    Lewis should have beat Rahman and McCall. :roll:
    And Wladimir lost to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster :huh
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    its true that he had drug problems but then so did sugar ray leonard, and no one doubts his ability.

    its mcalls psychological problems that were the key at the time, and sure these may have been related to the drugs, but that was the issue, not the drugs themselves.

    ANd no one needs to remind you that mcall was avoiding lewis until he got in the ring with him just over a year after mnccall was world champ, whereas wlad specifically ran and hid until journeyman Brewster was about to retire, and then suddenly challenged him in cowardzaghe style.

    the difference is VAST.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes the difference is VAST indeed. Rematch Brewster was in great condition. Brewster came to fight, was throwing punches. On the other hand, McCall was crying after 120 seconds. He didn't throw a SINGLE punch (NOT ONE!!!!), instead he let his hands down and allowed Lewis to hit him flush on the chin.

    The farce lasted what 4 rounds? 5 rounds? Mind you Lewis was unable to even knock down a defenseless, crying, mentally-crazed imbecile :deal

    I always bring this up to the idiots who claim Lewis looked so spectacular in 'all' his rematches. He looked great against The Rock, but his rematch win over McCall has to be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  9. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but it doesn't work like that, you can't take a fighter on his best night and pit him against someone else's resume and every fight they are in prime condition. If wlad went through Lewis' record at the same progression, starting at 28 and getting older as he goes then he loses a few times, probably more than Lennox.

    This is the same as saying prime focused Lennox beats everyone on his record, or prime focused wlad beats everyone on his own record.
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    lewis did not give mcall mental problems. whislt its true that mewis made have made McCall cry in the ring with his blows,this is down to lewis intimidation of prime McCall who had just surrended his undisputed world title,.

    but wlad actively chose a rematch with journeyman Brewster when Brewster was retring.


    yes the different in the way wlad and lewis CHOSE their fights is VAST. Lewis never chose to defend against a retiree - hell no hw champ in history did that until the K bros came along.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you think mcall would have won?

    are I see you bring this point up for yourself, you being the idiot who thinks McCall would have won.

    anyway the point is not Lewis looked great or not - point is mcall was poor that day. So it seems you are calling yourself the idiot.
     
  12. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sick of hearing that rubbish, there have always been other sports.
     
  13. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    What are you on about? Peter won about 4-5 rounds of that fight and Wlad lost one round 7-10.

    Wlad had to be built back up by his management after the Sanders lost. Lewis didn't.

    You're whole post is nothing but lies.
     
  14. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    MaCall was not retired and he was coming off two decent wins.

    Brewster was retired and hadn't won a fight in almost two years.

    Lewis rematched Rahman straight away. Thats what real champions do. Wlad never did in all his career when he had opportunity to do so.

    Thats a major blemish. Major.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Lewis was KTFO by Rahman, and stopped by McCall. Wlad has a far better chin than Lennox did, lesser version of Tua? Sanders is nothing like Tua, but he was definitely a better talent.