Tua vs Tyson.

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Call me crazy but Tua wins this one. Here's why.
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    Tua has taken punches from fighters who are in Tyson's "Power class", Lewis, Ibeabuchi. However, he's never been stopped and suffered his only true knockdown at the end of his career, after his career had been stalled by politics and greedy managers and lack of motivation.
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    Tua is certainly not in Tyson's speed class. However, Tyson has to get close to hit him and he wouldn't do so without some return fire.
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    If you look at Tyson's career, you will see that he has only TWO KOs after round 6. He never had great stamina, even during his prime. Tua, on the other hand, has scored knockouts late in a fight. He retains his power into the late rounds where Tyson's punch out-put, and power diminish drastically after the middle rounds.
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    Tua's chin has stood the test and would stand up to Tyson. However, once Tyson's early rush is over, and Tua is still standing, his punches would have the greater effect.
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    Mike is often not given credit for heart but that's inaccurate. Stamina his always been his problem, not heart or chin. He would rise after falling in round 10. However, Tua would press the attack and repeat the performance in round 11, prompting the referee to stop the contest.
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    Tua by TKO in 11.
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson wins this and easy.

    Tua wont even recover from Tysons initial onslaught in the first couple of rounds, and no way will Tyson let him off the hook.

    Tua poses no stylistic challenge to Tyson
    Tua has no physical advantages over Tyson.
    Tua is 5"10 with a 70" reach.
    Tyson is 5"10 with a 71" reach and out of the two, Tyson utilised his size (or lack of) much better.

    Tyson outslugged and broke down bigger guys like Bruno and Ruddock and had punchers like Smith, holding on for dear life. When Tua stepped up against someone of a similar calibre in Ike, he lost.

    Tuas chin is overrated, yes he was never knocked down, but thats because he was so one dimensional most guys realised it was so much easier to outbox him.

    Its like people who like to brag that all of Foremans opponents in his second career 'ran' from him, no they didnt run from him, they just werent stupid to stand in front of a fat old man and realised outboxing him would be much easier

    Tyson was a totally different cup of tea.

    Tua took one right hand from Lewis and was happy to see the final bell (and walk into the ringpost like an idiot). Tyson stood his ground with Lewis.

    Tua in all of his losses, was just a plodder, Tyson fought aggressively in all of his losses and tried until the end. A fighter who fights more aggresively is more prone to being stopped.

    Tyson has knockouts over fighters who had never been stopped, and he knocked out fighters much quicker than other mutual opponents like Foreman, Lewis, Holmes, Holyfield and Bowe.

    Tuas record is littered with bums, has beens and never weres and wins over Ruiz and Moorer (who was past his prime and never had a good chin to begin with).

    Comparing Tua to Tyson is like comparing Wilder to Foreman, or Chisora to Frazier.

    And lastly, Tua has never been hit by anything close to what Tyson will unload on him.
     
  3. janitor

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    I would have to strongly favour Tyson here.

    Tyson was a great fighter, while Tua was a great talent with some critical components missing.
     
  4. he grant

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    This is not about greatness but about a stylistic match up ... I'd pick the prime Tyson to beat the prime Tua by decision but there is no doubt that Tua, which his iron chin, strength and power could seriously test him .. if Mike was not in top shape and Tua was he could have upset Mike..
     
  5. Azzer85

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    no i agree, its not about greatness. But with the amount Tyson will be dishing out, will Tuas chin stand up to it?

    Although Tyson has been stopped, i feel his chin was more tested and he showed he could give and take vs Ruddock.

    But if this was both men at their peaks, Tyson was too defensively sound for Tua
     
  6. Savak

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    Has Tua ever dealt with the combinations that Tyson would pulverize him with?
     
  7. Roger Federer

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    If they had fought when it could have happened IRL(sometime between 1999-2003) it would have been very interesting.
     
  8. Savak

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    Tyson would have given up if the fight took place then. But from 1985-91 & even 95-97,he has to be favored
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I call this Tuardism, it's best to just ignore these Tua fantasy threads and just let them pass.
     
  10. clark

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    Found this old thread from 6 and a half years ago that you might find interesting. http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=65315
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No problem. The point of '96 was it could have happened then.
    Would have been interesting.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way in hell does Tyson get Tua out early, it would become a battle of landing bombs and there's only one winner and it sure ain't Tyson, let's not forget he was knocked the **** out by feather fisted Douglas. Like the OP said, Tyson had nowhere near the late power and strength of Tua and would either be knocked out or he'd look for a way out and get disqualified.
     
  14. Warwick Hunt

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    If we're talking prime Tyson then to me there's only one winner.
    Tyson was simply a class above Tua who is extremely overated on here.
     
  15. Azzer85

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    heres an interesting fact, Tua never koed a single durable fighter in his career aside from Ruiz