How Many Previous Champs Does Wlad Beat?

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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Even if they had rematched 12 months later, how long do you think it would of been before Lewis opened up those old cuts again?

    I don't care what medical attention Vitali received after those facial injuries, they would be a major weakness in another tear up with someone of Lewis's firepower.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well it's a shame Lewis didn't fancy giving us that chance isn't it??
     
  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Look Son, why not just put these things to bed eh?
    End of the day the record books say TKO6 and no amount of whining is ever gonna change that fact so learn how to deal with it.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look son who's disputing the result??

    The facts are Vitali was winning the fight and if it wasn't for his skin would have probably won the fight, the fans know a rematch should have been taken by Lewis.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    This is correct. Lewis was also cut and his eyes were actually the more swollen of the two.

    Fightnews reports that lose tape on Lewis glove causes the main cut.

    As for the cut itself, Lewis used a backhand slash and other times hit and held.

    Oh, ya wanna see the video of the back hand slash?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdOteT5G0Q
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's my take on it too, if for no other reason than that's his best option.
     
  8. BoxingFanMike

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    Back to Wlad, I think on a good night, he could potentially beat just about anyone, but he could also lose to a lot of these guys too. I don't think he beats Lewis, Foreman (younger version), or hist big brother Vitali, ever. Tyson could beat him, but he might be small enough Wlad could tie him up, would be very interesting to see. Holyfield at his best would be interesting too. I think he could give Ali and Holmes problems because they don't have the bombs to threaten his chin, however, they are better boxers (more fluid, etc) and could also beat him. Bowe would be interesting. I don't know enough about the old time heavyweights to make an intelligent point about it, but I think just given the size disparity you would have to at least give him a chance.
     
  9. McGrain

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    No.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39190000/jpg/_39190498_lennox200.jpg

    Boxer shorts. You're making it up, Mendoza.

    Now think about how often you've repeated that in here.

    "Lennox Lewis weighed in fully clothed. Lennox Lewis weighed in fully clothed. Lennox Lewis's real weight was lower than that because he weighed in fully clothed."

    And we now see it's nonsense. How do you think that happened?
     
  10. janitor

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    Why should Lewis have taken a rematch?

    Its not like he sat on the title for three years.

    His retiring should have made things easier for Vitally, not harder.

    Lewis basically gave Vitally the title on a plate, and then Vitally dropped the ball!
     
  11. mcvey

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  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Let it be known that you welched on our bet and have never picked a damn Wlad fight right.

    Why don't you just finally say "Mongoose, I'm never right, and you are right every single damn time, but I can't honor my bet because I don't have a life and need this board to go on." Maybe than I will show some mercy.

    If you are going with Lewis, than Wlad is likely going to win. Your fail proof at picking Wlad fights wrong. Dummy.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    Good point, I think some people forget who actually won the fight. And had Lewis gone on and fought other opponents then perhaps I would be sympathetic to the "ducking a rematch" point of view, but the fact is the man retired. It was his right to do so.

    That said, it would have been helpful if he hadn't taken as long as he did to make this decision but by all accounts, including Vitali's, his mom played a big role in this.
     
  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think anyone has benefited more from the deterioration of the heavyweight division than Wlad. He would have been ko'd by a lot of the champions of the past. A Weak chin and tendency to bleed is a bad combo in any era. He could methodically outwork guys like Page, Weaver. He'd possibly be too big for Frazier. I think Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, his bro. Vitali would all ko him. Ali and Holmes would decision him. He could beat Rachmann and Ruiz. Bowe would ko him. He could possibly outbox Holyfield.
     
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