The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Say what exactly?

    you're trying to make out Joe dodged prime Roy and Bernard?

    Roy moved up to 175lbs, than HW during Joe's rise to s****om.
    Bernard was just some MW, who JUMPED SMW, because Joe was there.

    Joe never had to go chasing neither of these guys to prove himself.
     
  2. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give him 40 mil or **** off.
    No PPV money.
    KO6 ?????
    The fight wont be competative anyway.
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fighters who go to the US get career-defining fights
    you only have to look at frank war+en's resume to see that his fighters never do that
    at SMW, joe didn't have too - but - he kept on calling out jones and Hopkins during their prime, but made sure he didn't do something about it

    hatton left war+en, crossed the pond, and look at the fights he got
    khan left war+en, crossed the pond, now just look at the exposure he is getting
    joe left war+en once jones and Hopkins were faded and dethroned by younger challengers who were willing to ante up, and suddenly he wanted to fight them

    tell me what i'm missing
     
  4. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    like maidana vs fmj? lmao
     
  5. darcus112

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    Lem Satterfield

    December 13, 2014

    Promoter Bob Arum said a potential fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao on May 2 — the same day on which Canelo Alvarez and Miguel want to fight — “is not going to happen” on that date.

    Mayweather announced during an interview on Showtime Friday that he “would love to fight Manny Pacquiao” on May 2. Alvarez and Cotto have been negotiating to fight that Saturday night on Cinco de Mayo weekend, which Mayweather calls “Cinco de Mayweather.”

    Click here for Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s full video interview with Steve Farhood

    Arum, who promotes Pacquiao and has been working with Cotto in negotiations with Alvarez, said Alvarez is more entitled to the date because of his Mexican heritage.

    Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya, who promotes Alvarez and has had a working relationship with Mayweather, agrees with that sentiment.

    “Let me tell you something, and this, I really feel very, very strongly about,” Arum said. “That weekend celebrates Cinco De Mayo, which is a Mexican Holiday, which commemorates the outstanding, courageous stand of a lot of Mexican civilians who turned back the French Imperial army, and it’s a significant holiday in Mexico and among Mexican Americans who live in the United States. That being said, neither Mr. Mayweather, nor Mr. Pacquiao, nor Mr. Cotto, who is Hispanic, but not Mexican.

    “The only Mexican in the group is Canelo Alvarez, who is a big attraction among the Mexican people. And to poach on that date, which is a Mexican holiday by non-Mexicans, shows a terrible disrespect for the Mexican people, both those living in Mexico and those living in the United States. And anybody who does the poaching ought to be ashamed of themselves. That goes for hotels and that goes for fighters and that goes for any of us. I’m willing to make that statement.”

    Said De La Hoya: “Bob has promoted boxing for more than 50 years and understands the importance of the Mexican and Mexican-American fan. Canelo wants to take back the tradition and fight on Cinco De Mayo for his fans all over the world.”

    Arum stopped short of saying he would not participate in the planning of a long-awaited Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown on the same date as Cotto-Alvarez.

    “I’m not saying that,” said Arum. “I’m just saying that it’s poaching on a Mexican date and it’s disrespectful to the Mexican people. Period. I’ll make that stand.”

    Mayweather made it clear with his announcement that he doesn’t plan to give up the Mexican holiday weekend, on which he has fought five times since 2007 — including each of the past three years.

    “We’re trying to make that fight happen,” Mayweather said during an interview with ****yst Steve Farhood as part of the network’s broadcast from San Antonio.

    “… The fans would love to see the fight, and, of course, I want to go out with a bang. So let’s make this fight happen.”

    Meanwhile, De La Hoya announced that Alvarez has agreed to terms for a May 2 fight against Cotto on HBO Pay-Per-View.

    Alvarez, who lost a majority decision to Mayweather in 2013, announced this past September that he would seek to take back the weekends of the Mexican holidays of Cinco de Mayo (May) and Mexican Independence Day (September) from Mayweather.

    Another potential conflict for that date is the fact that Cotto is now trained by Pacquiao’s longtime corner man, Freddie Roach.

    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/370247-bob-arum-on-may-2-thats-canelo-alvarezs-date

    Floyd breaks his silence and surprise, surprise it didn't take long for Arum to come up with an excuse :lol:
     
  6. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    anyone voted for 50/50 is a class A pacturd. How can it still be 50/50 when Manny got 2 losses, sold less, rank lower, and ruined the fight by getting ktfo by jmm?
     
  7. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    for christ sake move the canelo~cotto to the pacmay card as the co main event
     
  8. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maidona would eat Pac for breakfast.
     
  9. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "tell me what i'm missing "

    Joe Calzaghe is without a doubt the best 168lbs fighter in history.
    You're missing the fact, your heros never beat Joe at this weight to prove that sentiment otherwise.

    If GGG decides to stay at 160lbs for the rest of his career, beats everybody there, does he lose legacy because he never went up to 168lbs to fight andre ward?
    No.

    GGG, is 160 fighter.
    Rigo, does he lose his standing in history as probably the best p4p boxer EVER due to him not moving up and chasing fights?
    no, he's in his natural weight class.

    Joe, was a natural 168lbs boxer, the most DOMINANT in history.
    If Hopkins wanted the fight with Joe at 168lbs, it could have been made but hopkins ruled himself out of the fight with stupid demands back in the early 00's
    this is mainstream news btw
    Prime Roy, never beat collins, so was never really the guy at 168lbs in the first place,.

    He was just a guy in the 168lb division who fed on ****py boxers, and went for easy titles, Ruiz being the obvious one here.
     
  10. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and in all the posts I've ever made, I've never doubted calzaghe's credentials at 168 - never
    but you're talking about calzaghe beating a prime roy jones, so tell me what i'm missing from my previous post
    you're using misdirection without replying to me
     
  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    arum ducking, when does Arum start giving a f?
     
  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You tell me what prime roy jones was?

    The guy who beat Hopkins at MW, or the guy with the most devastating left hook EVA destroying Griffin in their rematch at LHW?
    Toney? Benn, eubank, collins, Joe, would have ****ed up overrated toney.
     
  13. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and like I said before, fighters who go to the US get career-defining fights
    calzaghe got Hopkins when he did, but he got him when he was in his mid-40's and already dethroned by jermain taylor
     
  14. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    jones was the mythical P4P king
    considering how weak the divisions were from MW through to LHW, how hard would it have been for joe to fight them when it mattered?
    and there you go again, giving fantasy wins to benn, eubank and calzaghe over toney....
     
  15. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You Americans thought at one time Pavlik would beat Joe.
    Hopkins never had the ***** to fight him at 168lbs, neither did roy.

    end of story.
     
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