How Many Previous Champs Does Wlad Beat?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Punching the other guy until he can't continue makes Lewis the better fighter, yes.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well why the insistence of a rematch by the fans of boxing??

    Vitali certainly wanted to continue did he not??
     
  3. tommygun711

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    yeah but he's also been fighting professionally a lot longer than both of them, so that's not saying much

    he's also been given a lot more opportunities than those 2.

    Crawford is better than Wlad P4P. he's built up a nice resume, and has done great this year.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Because Vitali did very well against him in a wonderful fight?

    Because Vitali was pretty clearly the #2 heavyweight in the world?

    Or, in your world, because Vitali secretly won or some ****.
     
  5. McGrain

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    Any chance you could find a reputable source listing Crawford above Wlad? I'd be very interested to see it, for real.

    Not saying you're wrong, just want to know if anyone anywhere in the recognised establishment agrees with you.
     
  6. Wass1985

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    It was far from a wonderful fight IMO.

    Not just in my world, the JUDGES knew who was winning the fight.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Your opinion is your own, of course, but it was very big heavyweights hitting one another very hard. Can't really imagine what you want out of HW boxing if not that?

    The JUDGES don't matter one single tenth of one single percent if one of the fighters finds a way to inflict a stoppage. The judges are only there to render a decision if neither fighter does what Lennox Lewis did to Vitali Klitschko, punch him in the face until he is incapable of continuing under the rules of the sport.

    Job done. Mission accomplished.
     
  8. Wass1985

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    So you don't think Lewis should have given Vitali a rematch after all he said he would??
     
  9. McGrain

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    That, is a completely different question. You are now deliberately confused whether or not Lewis should have given Vitali a rematch after saying he would with Lewis's win being somehow illegitimate.

    Probably time to pack up your argument, I would say.
     
  10. tommygun711

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    It doesn't matter if it's a reputable source or not. What kind of shît is that? these P4P lists are all opinionated at the end of the day. No doubt the majority will have Wlad higher.

    Wlad is a borderline joke IMO. He uses his own illegal tactics to win fights these days. All of that grabbing and holding shît. It's a lot less impressive than what Crawford has to offer these days.

    and while he is a very skilled fighter and definitely the best HW around, that's not saying much. The way Wlad dominates at HW is completely different than what Crawford is doing.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Well it matters to me.

    Sure, but you would probably have to concede that your opinion, or my opinion is less important than industry opinion? I'm not talking about the IBO or anything :lol: More Fightnews, Boxing Monthly, Boxing News, **** like that.

    If by "the majority" you mean "all", then you're right :D I think, anyway. I'm intersted in your opinion being very isolated next to those pre-ported by fighters, journalists, trainers, whatever.

    Ah, I see. Never mind then. Carry on.
     
  12. Wass1985

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    Where have I said the win was illegitimate?? Lewis may have won the battle but he didn't win the war and he knew that's why he didn't give Vitali a rematch.
     
  13. tommygun711

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    that was weak. you completely ignored my actual argument and said my opinion doesn't mean anything. with that kind of mentality you can shoot down any unpopular thing about boxing you hear.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Here, right after you wrote the above :lol::

    But more explicitly here:

    If you don't think the word "illegitimate", insert whatever word you are comfortable with into this post:


    That, is a completely different question. You are now deliberately confused whether or not Lewis should have given Vitali a rematch after saying he would with Lewis's win being somehow CENSORED.

    Probably time to pack up your argument, I would say.
     
  15. McGrain

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    I'm just going to stop you there. I don't talk to people who regard the reigning heavyweight champion of the world and the best fighter in his division for longer than that as a "borderline joke." I don't talk to those people.
     
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