How Many Previous Champs Does Wlad Beat?

Well Mcgrain, those are hardly any reasons to delete a post lol

 

Yes, I would have liked to have seen it too. Haven't seen super heavies get into a dog fight before, that was something.

 

You are a moron of epic proportions.

Let's see one guy ( Jeffries ) was in-active for 6 years and lost an estimated 80 pounds to come in at a career high weight. If you know anything about boxing losing that type of weight is not good for your stamina. Not being active for 6 years cost you muscle reflex memory.

The other ( Lewis ) as in-active for just one year and didn't have to lose nearly as much.

Which man has the greater disadvantage?

DUH.

 

Any prove of this? I've been goggling trying to find anything to back this up and so far nothing? I'm not questions the WBC threatening to strip Lewis's title, but I can't find any information about Lewis trying to make other fights.

Link Please


As to the first point, any proof that it's BS? or is it just BS because it doesn't support your narrative?

What about the article Vitali was in which stated that he went to Lewis's house and spoke with Lewis's mom about a rematch and she said no. Is Vitali lying about this?

When you make assertions you back them up with facts, how hard is that to understand?

 

Yes, the fight was discussed pre and post Klitschko. Jones signed then balked. Lewis openly said he wanted an champion match in Canada post Klitschko.

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[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/2812363.stm[/url]

and another link

[url]http://www.bullshido.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-4277.html[/url]

 

Mendoza you can yap about the Lewis - Vitali fight and the rematch for another 10 years and the outcome isn't going to change. Lewis won the fight, Vitali clearly had his chances to win, especially in the 2nd round, failed to capitalize on it, and Lewis decided not to give him a rematch, which was his right to do. End of story.

As to who would have won the rematch, that's pure speculation on all our parts because we really don't know what shape Lewis would have showed up in. I personally think he would have found away to win again, since he was basically walking through Vitali's punches by the end of the fight and aggressively trying to finish the fight. But who knows?

 

You might have comprehension problems. That article makes it clear that he doesn't really want to fight Jones and the signing for two fights was referring to Tyson. Hell look at the title of the article for ****s sake. God the level of education seems to have slide since I was a kid. If I read an article like that and presented your conclusions to a prof he'd have failed me on the spot.

Lewis rules out Jones clash

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Lewis was impressed by Jones Jr (left) on Saturday

Lennox Lewis has ruled out a heavyweight reunification bout with new WBA champion Roy Jones Jr.

This makes it crystal clear that the signed contract referred to Tyson, not Jones.


Lewis has not fought since 8 June when he beat Mike Tyson in Memphis.
The pair are lined up to meet again but Lewis remained tentative over any potential clash.
"It really depends on him," said Lewis. "I'm not forcing any man to fight me. But when we signed for the first fight, we signed for two fights. "I'm waiting for him to write to me to let me know his next move."

 

I'm not disputing the official result any more than the score cards.

Lewis said he would re-match. He had a high purse, but retired only when the re-match was ordered and running his mouth for a year. Those are the facts. I disagree on who wins the re-match.

What we can agree is boxing fans were robbed of one. Had Lewis simply retired shortly after the fight without running his mouth it would have been a non issue. He did the opposite, talking like an active fighter, and trying to make a match with Kirk Johnson.

 

Your link is not working. Its only a photo.

 

Again, prove he was trying to make a match with Johnson would be nice.

But even it true, that was the original plan and it was designed to prove us Canadian's with a fair well fight.

Just because he win a close fight and promised a rematch doesn't mean the next fight had to only be the rematch fight. But since he did neither, the whole point is moot.

 

There is no link, that's from your article. The title of the article YOU posted said Lewis doesn't want to fight Jones. It's your OWN ARTICLE I'm quoting.

 

Hey VA,

[url]http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2003-06-19-lewis-jones_x.htm[/url]

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By Dan Rafael, USA TODAY
LOS ANGELES — Although heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis faces one of the biggest opponents of his career in Vitali Klitschko on Saturday night (HBO, 10 ET), a victory sets up a potential fall blockbuster with one of the smallest, Roy Jones Jr.
Although Lewis has Klitschko on his mind, he's also thinking about Jones and the mammoth pay-per-view dollars it would generate. His handlers have begun talks with Jones promoter Murad Muhammad for a historic bout that would pit the best heavyweight of the era with the best pound-for-pound fighter of the era in the sort of fantasy matchup normally reserved for barroom banter.

"When we first started talking about Roy fighting heavyweights, it was limited to him fighting the smaller guys like Chris Byrd," HBO's Kery Davis says. "No one ever contemplated him fighting someone as big and as talented as Lennox, which is why this is so fascinating. Not only would he fight a big guy, but he'd be fighting the best big guy."

What once would have been thought of as a ridiculous mismatch between the powerful 6-5, 256-pound Lewis and the speedy, 5-11, 190-poundish Jones can no longer be laughed at. Jones has moved from junior middleweight to heavyweight during a brilliant 15-year pro career, capping it off in March by winning the WBA heavyweight belt from John Ruiz.

"Roy is a serious fighter. I do not take him lightly with Lennox," says Lewis' trainer, Emanuel Steward. "He's been a winner all his life. He has the ego; I'm sure he's convinced that his speed would be a big asset."

Muhammad also is negotiating with Evander Holyfield for a fall fight. He said he met with Holyfield adviser Jim Thomas and promoter Don King on Wednesday, but the sides are not in agreement.

"Roy is very interested in fighting Lennox," Muhammad says. "We have Holyfield on the table, and we will keep talking. I want to be able to give Roy both offers, but the way it's going with Holyfield we are leaning toward Lennox Lewis. He creates more money, and Roy will go where the money is at."

Lewis is interested because he figures he'll be able to overwhelm a smaller opponent and make big money, too: "Roy is a remarkable boxer with tremendous talent, but he's coming up to my weight class and that would be a fatal mistake. For him to say he wants to be heavyweight champion, he has to forget about fighting those old men (Holyfield) who should basically be in retirement. He might as well come after the real champion, which is me."

Steward believes the money, probably $20 million-plus, and Jones' ego will push him toward Lewis.

"When I saw Roy Jones win the heavyweight championship, I said he's going to fight Lennox," Steward says. "I know Roy's ego. Once he tasted that money and loved hearing everyone holler 'heavyweight champ of the world,' it was intoxicating. He loves the money, he loves the limelight. Then someone says, 'Oh, you're just a baby champion. The real champ is Lennox Lewis.' Roy can't deal with that."

^^^ Now do you still think Lewis did not want the fight post Klitschko? Unlike McVey, you're honest.