The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Are you for real?

    You, MVC, man there's a few of you that defend every action Floyd makes.

    Floyd has never wanted this fight, ever.
     
  2. Zimornsky

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    Don't be a ho, dude.

    Pac gave up top billing, first to the ring, and second on the scale to Floyd. Floyd pushed further because he knew that he would derail the fight. 21 day cut off is not good enough? Take 1 week out for fight week (where guys stay loose, but are mostly preoccupied w/ media obligations, appearances, and promotion). That leaves the end of training camp... are you saying to me that Pac would have juiced for 2 weeks, gained all the benefit, and then escape detection while the whole world watches?

    :patsch

    Floyd a ho. And so is you.

    :deal
     
  3. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Plus, no cut off date for random urine testing.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Never wanted the fight but agreed to 50/50 split Pac's weight fine all he wanted was testing to be given to both fighters the same testing Roach initially said wouldn't be an issue but later they changed their tune. Yeah PBF never wanted the fight, Pac never wanted it how many offers has he made to PBF? PBF made a $40 million offer and agreed back in 2009. Don't get mad at me because I expose irrational fools like you. I have facts you have hate.:deal
     
  5. Zimornsky

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    :deal
     
  6. Dakou1

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    Thoughts on Floyd's new interview for fight hype ?? i wish they would just get it on but maybe this is all to build the hype (i wish) but yh i seen recently that his demands that were said in a fight hype interview a couple of days ago were "1)Mayweather Promotions 2) Showtime Pay-Per-View 3) 147 Unification bout, that's basically it" Obviously since manny is signed to hbo this ain't possible is it lol
     
  7. Zimornsky

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    2010 - Bob Arum (no problem)

    2012 - Bob Arum (no problem)

    2013 - Bob Arum (will never, ever fight Pac if he is w/ Arum)

    2014 - Bob Arum (no problem)

    2014 - "The time is right" to fight Manny Pacquiao (FightHype interview today)

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  8. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not up to date on this and IB ruining the forum by piling all the threads together hasn't helped. Help me out.

    1. Pac vs. Floyd doesn't happen in 2009/2010 because Floyd pulled a drug testing demand and Manny didn't want to play. PACQUIAO'S FAULT (and highly suspicious).

    2. Pac vs. Floyd doesn't happen at some point because Floyd makes a laughable offer of $40M to Pacquiao. Pacquaio declines the 80/20 split and no negotiation takes place. FLOYD'S FAULT.

    3. Floyd goes on record saying that the fight won't happen because Arum cannot be involved. Pac re-signs with Arum. FLOYD'S FAULT (justifiable because Arum screwed him in the early days, but still a poor excuse)

    4. Pacquiao now agrees to any money split, VADA testing, 16oz Winning Gloves, and to wear a T-shirt to the ring that says "I admit that Floyd Mayweather is TBE and am sorry for ducking him for so many years when he tried everything possible to make the fight."

    5. Floyd goes on record that Pacquiao is the only fight he is interested in and lays out the following conditions:
    -Pacquiao will receive an undisclosed amount of money that is less than $40M.
    -The fight will be on Showtime PPV.
    -The fight will be promoted by Mayweather Promotions.

    ****ysis: <---Are you f*cking serious ESB. Buttsecks.
    1. DRUG TESTING IS NOT AN ISSUE ANY MORE. Pacquiao is subject to the strictest testing in the world now (VADA). It should never have been an issue and history will judge Pacquiao harshly for declining over this issue.

    2. MONEY SPLIT IS NOT AN ISSUE ANY MORE. Fair or not, Pacquiao has said he's willing to take "any amount" to get the fight made. We can argue about who deserves what and who is the A-side, but that no longer matters. That said, history will judge Mayweather harshly for pricing himself out of the fight.

    3. Networks are an issue. Mayweather demanded Showtime and while he didn't explicitly say anything about ruling out a joint effort, his language was very much implying that that is off the table. HBO is not going to let Pacquiao walk over to Showtime and make them a sh*tload of money. This is a massive problem that has to be resolved or the fight will not happen. The Cold War between TR and GBP might be over, but the SHO/HBO Cold War is still going.

    4. Promoters are an issue. Mayweather insists that the fight will be promoted by Mayweather Promotions a.k.a. Al Haymon. One would imagine that Bob Arum and Top Rank will not be allowed to profit from the fight if Mayweather has his way. Pacquiao is contracted to Top Rank. This is a problem.

    Conclusion
    Money and testing are now resolved and Mayweather has complicated matters by bringing networks and promoters into things. Who knows if that will be enough to scuttle the fight. Mayweather does seem to want the fight and doesn't seem to be scared of Pacquiao anymore, but he seems to want to squeeze every penny possible out of the fight.

    Mayweather delenda est.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Roach said initially that testing wouldn't be an issue but when PBF still asked for it they declined. Funny they decline for PBF but were willing to do so to face Rios:lol::rofl PBF agreed to Pac;s demands but Pac couldn't agree to PBF's. Pac is a diva and has a history of being one in negotiations see the Hatton JMM and Cotto fights for reference. Not only that how many offers has Pac made to PBF over all these years? He's never shown real interest always hiding behind his pimp Arum until recently.
     
  10. tarugojones

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    Floyd 2014 : " I'm ready to fight Pacquiao " :rofl
     
  11. Zimornsky

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. Pimp C

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    But did unlimited blood and urine for Rios why the change of heart years later? Was it the coma JMM put him in that made him come to his senses? Had he agreed to the same testing he did for Rios we would have had this fight back in 2010.:deal
     
  13. Zimornsky

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    Koncz approached Floyd w/ a 55-45 offer. Winner takes the lion's share. Floyd said NOTHING because he knows he could lose.

    :hi:
     
  14. Zimornsky

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    Tell me, in detail, how Pac would be able to dope for 2 weeks, benefit from it, and escape detection.

    :hi:
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Give me the offers that Pac made to PBF not typical troll ****.:hi:

    We do know about PBF's 40 million dollar offer which has been well documented by both sides.
    We do know about Arum saying they needed a bigger stadium and Pac needing more time for his cut to heel.
     
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