Fighters who did not have an obvious flaw

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Donald Curry
     
  2. pablod

    pablod Active Member Full Member

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    good call
     
  3. SmackDaBum

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  4. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Curry always had a habit of standing back and admiring his own work, which is exactly the reason McCallum timed him and took him out with one shot.
     
  5. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gene Tunney, an old timer who did not show many flaws, made miatakes early in his career such as his loss to atg Harry Greb, came back and beat him 4 maybe 5 times. Excellent fighter
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard.
     
  7. Bokaj

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    I think Marquez is a very complete fighter. As was Barrera.

    MW Archie Moore perhaps? Because he was still fast at that stage.
     
  8. Bokaj

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    Depends on how picky one wants to be, but he did hold his left low which made him vulnerable to the right. Always when he was hit clean it was with a overhand right. Jackson, McCrory, Curry, Kalambay, Toney and Jones all had differing measures of succes with the right against him.
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah point taken:good
    What I liked about McCallum was that he used even the very basic boxing skills that the rawest amateurs are taught ie. Jab and parry but the way he sunk his body punches in really sapped some great fighters of their will.
    I'd go along with what another poster said about a peak don curry.
     
  10. Bokaj

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    Oh, yeah, Mike was a fantastic technician. So incredibly smooth in everything he did, that he made even the extremely difficult stuff seem absolutely effortsless. And tbf his low left often made opponents throw rights that he rolled (but without using the shoulder that much) and countered.
     
  11. Ken Ashcroft

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    Maybe you couldn't call him a flawless fighter but still, I thought Julio Cesar Chavez fought a flawless fight in his lightweight showdown against Edwin Rosario.
     
  12. lora

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    I'd say the relative ploddingness and leaky defence of Marquez and Barrera would be obvious weaknesses.They are much more vulnerable defensively than McCallum was for instance.

    They didn't fight many cuties or good backfoot fighters at all that had the talent to take advantage of it though, most of the better fighters of their era were offensive frontfoot types, or more typical ring-centre textbook fighters like themselves.

    A bit lucky in that respect as when they did fight above mediocre ones like Salazar, John, old Casamayor... they tended to have a hard time.
     
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    Floyd at 130
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    Vernon Forrest?
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    Beyond a doubt SRL was a master in the ring. As was Benitez prior to his fairly rapid decline.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    It's true that neither ever had top notch speed of foot and reflexes, but I wouldn't call that a flaw as such.

    You could perhaps say they were a bit static in terms of head movement. And Barrera had a habit of pulling his head back when he jabbed (but somehow had a very effective jab nonetheless). It depends on how picky one wants o be.

    As for McCallum, that low left was something a trainer would immediately caution a young fighter about. Of course, Mike was a fighter with special ability and only the very top fighters managed to make him pay for it. The low left was also partly a natural reaction of him keeping so busy with the left and tiring it out a bit, I think.