Who would you pick to stop Marciano?

I would pay a large sum of money to see Ali trying to rope-a-dope Marciano.

 

Fast explosive hitters like Dempsey, Louis, Tyson, Lennox I think would be likeliest to do it - forget about cuts - cuts are just something that either happen or they don't - contrary to what I hear all the time Marciano had one freaky one in a million split nose that basically has never ever happened before or since in the entire history of boxing and then one badly cut eye which happened to be an old cut reopening but as bad as that cut was there was never any question of the referee even thinking about stopping it because of it? Cuts are such a random event saying that a guy might get stopped on cuts is like saying a car might breakdown by getting hit buy lightning? But in terms of being actually stopped properly I'd always go with the guys with explosive fast power like the guys I mentioned - probably add Liston on the end of my list as well coz actually in a lot of fights he showed some pretty quick blasts for such a big guy

 

dozens of modern sized heavies could pull the trick… I would put even money for Wilder to pull the trick.

 

Marciano's fight with Charles would have been stopped today.
He was cut against Simmons and in danger of being tko'd .
He was cut against Moore and Walcott ,that's why they say cuts!

 

A prime Ali would not need to!

 

Finishing ability ?
Apart from an old Walcott, who as champion did he clinically take out ?
He wore his challengers down
As if Ali was prime for Bonavena atsch

 

So are we to surmise that any fantasy fight Marciano is in he's loses on a split nose??? :scaredas: that is utterly ridiculous.

Ps Marciano was never in danger of being TKO'd versus Simmons and also he was not cut against Moore??

 

For a one punch knockout, the only guys I can see stopping Marciano are Foreman, Liston, Lewis, and Wlad.

Louis, Dempsey, Frazier, and Tyson could all TKO him with an accumulation of punishment.

 

They you really don't value anything apart from size in a fighter.

 

I didn't specify where Marciano would be cut but I would expect it to be on his eyes. In Skehan's book on Marciano he states Marciano was in danger of being stopped becasue of his eye injury. against Simmons.
"Once again it was an injury that almost turned the tide against Marciano.In the second round ,Simmons slammed two jolting rights to Rocky's head.The skin above Rocky's left eye blew open and began spewing blood."
Refere Sharkey Buonnnano told me later he could have stopped the fight anytime after the second round Mike Piccento said. He didn't want to because Rocky was undefeated and a big attraction in Providence.He didn't want to unless it was absolutely necessary."
"In his own mind Rocky knew that the fight could not go another round".

ps Marciano was also cut against Johnny Shkor, and Joe Louis.

"Then as Rocky was coming in Shkor lowered his head and charged.The sound of bone against bone rang dully across the ribng.Blood spurted froma gaping wound above Rocky'e left eye.where the top of Shkor's skull had butted the thin tight flesh.By the time he ko'd Shkor i n the sixth , the gash had puckered and widened and the gore was spilling down his face.

In the dressing room Rocky was furious and disgusted Goldman and Columbo paced nervously while a doctor stitched the puffy wound."
" there would always be the danger of an opponent banging open the scar tissue over that eye and the referee stopping the fight "

After 5 th rounds against Louis."There was a trickle of blood coming from Rocky's nostrils and a slight cut at the corner of his eye".

NB. Marciano was cut against Moore.
" By the third round Rocky's nose was bleeding and he had a slight cut over his left eye".

Maybe you need to spend less time on emoticons and more time on research?

 

How about a prime Joe Louis vs a prime Rocky Marciano?

That would a fun one to watch. I think Louis' precision punches would ultimately stop Marciano in the later rounds but Rocky would always have a shot to win.

 

No, I just tend to agree with Manny Steward.

Marciano would have to absorb too much damage to consistently land on today's bigger, longer fighters. And I think his power is overrated and would have less effect on guys who outweighed him with 60 pounds of muscle. At the top level, even in his day's top level of shopworn, smaller opponents, he was an attrition fighter. Today, he would have to be even more so. And with that approach, and his profound physical limitations, he would simply have to absorb to much damage to pursue his only avenue to victory.

 

In the late 1960s, Marciano listed prime Louis and Liston as two fighters he would not have wanted to fight.

 

rthe big skilled crushers like foreman.