Fight the best or fight for money?

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Why are some boxers expected to fight the best while others are only expected to fight for the most money?

    Take Mayweather, if he fights Cotto @ 160 he'll be crucified for not taking the best, Golovkin. And rightfully so IMO. But what about Golovkin? Why is he allowed to fight Chavez Jr @ 168 but not Ward? Put Ward's legal issues aside, Golovkin said he'll fight at 168 If it's a big money fight. So should he fight the best or fight for money? I don't get it. All fighters should be held to the same standard.

    This is not exclusive to the fighters listed, they are just prime examples. This is also not about the fighters but the fans perspective of their match making. I just want some opinions.
     
  2. Super Hans

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    I don't have a problem with fighters that fight for money- for example I wouldn't give Cotto a hard time if he fought Alvarez rather than Golovkin.

    However I have a problem with the likes of Stevenson who continually ducks fighting the best fighters and fights for lower money against B and C level guys.

    You mention Mayweather not being held to the same standard but he is going around telling everyone he's 'The Best Ever' while proving it against Devon Alexander victim Marcos Maidana
     
  3. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stop defending the Coward Catchweather, a coward is a coward.
     
  4. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's fine to choose fights based on money but when you've been at world level for a while and had big money fights then the big money fights are those usually against the best opposition available
     
  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I agree. But Mayweather calling himself TBE should not affect the standards he's held to IMO.

    How is this defending Mayweather?

     
  6. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "We're not fighting to see who is the best"
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Look at Kovalev for example right after the. Hopkins fight Kathy Duva said it's now about the money now ..I think you can fight the best than make the best money but you should be fighting the best first !Boxing is about legacy even though it's called prize fighting no one ranks the top earners the highest because of the money they made its about who they fought at the end of the day!
     
  8. Bobthepen

    Bobthepen Active Member Full Member

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    I have no problem with a boxer doing either, as long as they state what their intentions are. Eubank is the only one I remember who stated Money always took precedent over achievement.

    What I don't like is when fighters pontificate about legacy and challenges, then continually seek out the most lucrative fights at the expense of the ones that will enhance their legacy or are more challenging.

    I won't hold Golovkin up as an example, as the Ward fight isn't there to be made anyway and it's still relatively early in his career.

    I will Mayweather though, who has continually avoided challenges at almost every stage of the last ten years. It irks especially when he refers to himself as TBE, when he is patently nowhere near and will not take the fights that might put him within that ball park.
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    The Mayweather formula is watering down the sport
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Isn't Golovkin nearly in his mid 30's, especially with his style, I'd say he has a good 2-3 years max.
     
  11. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It existed long before Floyd.
     
  12. Super Hans

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    Why not? If he says he's the best ever are we suppose to just take his word for it?

    As it stands Anthony Joshua has a much right to call himself 'The Best Ever' as he's proved it as much as Mayweather- i.e. not at all.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    In some divisions you can cherrypick for bigger paydays (like the MW, SMW divisions). But at the top level the biggest fights = the bigger paydays.

    Fighting for money means fighting #1 Floyd, #2 Pac, #3 Wladschko, #4 Cotto... etc.

    So if Floyd wants to fight for the most money, it means fighting Pac and vice versa. So bullsh|tting about it won't hold up anyway.
     
  14. Bobthepen

    Bobthepen Active Member Full Member

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    He's 32, and states he'll fight for another five years. He doesn't have too many miles on the clock, and isn't wearing out his body boiling down.
    Throw in the fact he wants four fights a year, and even with 2-3 years he could rack up a decent resume before retiring. I'll see where he is in a year or so before slating him or not.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Well I'm a teacher. I wouldn't consider going to a more prestigious school if my current school could match the salary.

    Boxing is a profession at the end of the day. We might give fighters grief for not making certain fights but at the end of the day it's their choice and it's then who out food on the table.

    We should focus more on applauding those who do tale on the best as opposed to disparaging those who don't.