The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Also, his post isn't even balanced. He counts Barrera, Moeales, and Marquez twice. He also adds Bradley, who might not even make it to the HOF.

 

Pacquiao never won a world title fight at featherweight, oddly enough. Barerra was considered the lineal titleholder at the weight, but vacated the WBC belt after defeating Morales. So the count is 7-5 in that regard.

 

That is great, I support it entirely, although I'm pretty sure it's just urine.

Anyway, I wish sanctioning bodies would require it of all champions and I wish all fighters would volunteer and pay for the strictest tests possible (Donaire from 2011-2013 is the golden standard with year round random blood testing, would have to tell VADA/USADA [forget which one] anytime he left his residence for an overnight stay anywhere; no other athlete on Earth in any sport has paid for this process out of their own pocket).

 

None of them are above suspicion in my eyes. Although Mayweather's style would appear to benefit the least from PEDs.

 

The style of fighting has nothing to do with it!

Some of you are clueless.

I'm sure they've all taken PED's but naturally Floyd is the least suspicious because he was the first boxer to bring voluntary drug testing to the public's awareness (think of the fights to be cancelled because of this; Peterson/Khan II, Ortiz/Berto II) and was the first athlete in the history of the planet to volunteer for blood testing out of his own pocket.

 

Jr also had the easiest access ! He lived with Don Hale and had him as an adviser. Don owned 20+ HRT clinics.

 

It's debatable for sure but since I've gone back and looked at articles and what not, it seems the slight consensus was that it was Genaro... It confuses a lot of folk because that was during a couple year stretch where The Ring stopped recognizing or filling vacancies for their Lineal title so technically Floyd never won "The Ring Lineal title" at 130 even though in their own articles they made clear he was.

 

This is actually the same case for his win over Hatton. Hatton was the lineal champ at 140, without question, but didn't hold any recognized sanctioning title (he was the IBO 140 champ).

So, actually, the count would be 6-5 there.

 

Uh huh. Which is why Floyd paid Pac an undisclosed sum of money to keep his medical records, test results, and USADA contract details under wraps, right?

 

While that seems sketchy, actually trying to connect those dots and draw conclusions in your head off of that is similar to the American Red Scare. If you once had a glass of tea with a potential Communist, then you too were a Commie spy...

These boxers all have known PED peddlers in their entourages or people who have close relationships with PED peddlers in their entourage.

 

Well Floyd and Chico were considred #1 and #2 in the division when they fought, so that would have fulfilled any criteria to establish a lineal champion.

In the case of Hernandez, he was rated number three behind Nelson when they fought in '97, behind Gatti.

Nelson and Hernandez had previously been the top two in the division, though...and you certainly could make a case for rating Hernandez above Gatti, so you could make a case for Nelson-Hernandez establishing lineal at the weight.

Edit: If the Ring Magazine championship policy had been in place, Nelson-Hernandez would have crowned a champion for the division, so yeah, I guess Floyd was lineal after beating Genero.

 

I don't pretend to know things that you or I know nothing of substance about. What I do know is that he settled the defamation lawsuit filed by Pacquiao out of court with that payoff.

I didn't see Top Rank releasing that BS joint USADA-NSAC program Pac's team specifically developed for the rematch against Bradley after Bradley had already began paying his own money for the standard VADA procedures and publicly questioned Pac's reluctance to undergo testing when they had (probably only verbally) committed to such....... Does that mean Pac is dirty in that instance? Of course not.

 

Too many tomato cans/old boxers on Marquez resume that's why. :hi:

 

I guess Paulie's a bit suss as well considering he TKO'd Sechenko at his highest weight class.

 

Yep.

My thinking is that Azumah is the obvious longtime #1. He lost to Leija, bumping him down below Leija, Gabriel Ruelas, and John John Molina. However, Molina moved up in weight after '94 and didn't return until '99. So Ruelas became #1 after beating Leija. Azumah Nelson then faced and beat Ruelas and then Leija in their third fight. Genaro faced and beat Nelson.

Really, depending on ones' opinion, there are multiple scenarios to explain Genaro being Lineal champ at 130 at the time. However there are scenarios that lead to him not being viewed as Lineal... It is highly debatable.