Does Floyd's undefeated record define his Legacy?

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Legacies are built on names not numbers. Floyd's legacy is De La Hoya, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, Judah, Alvarez, Marquez, Castillo, and Corrales.
     
  2. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    floyd will be remembered as an untested, ducking, cherry picking coward...

    if he doesnt fight pac...add to it the title "most disgraceful undefeated fighter of all time"....
     
  3. t-boy

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    It is better otherwise.
     
  4. remi

    remi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think people forget or don't understand, or simply don't know that Mayweather used to be promoted by Bob Arum. While Bob arum had Oscar, Cotto, and I believe Mosley. Mayweather was never his priority. Thus, having HBO offer a 10 fight 20 million deal which mayweather took as an insult to his dedication to the sport of boxing.

    With that bit of History out of the way, Mayweather clearly felt that He was being undermined by Bob Arum who was focusing on Oscar and other fighters at the time. Mayweather tried to and wanted to fight Oscar, Cotto, even Mosley but too no avail, either because Bob felt that the fight wasn't big enough with Oscar and he wasn't ready, Cotto wasn't ready, and Mosley had a tooth excuse. Regardless of reason, those fights didn't happen. Was it because of Mayweather, or Bob Arum, we don't know for sure but those fights didn't happen.

    Mayweather went on to buy himself out of his contract with Bob Arum. Now, why would he do this if everything was so good and gravy? By this time Oscar had already left, and Mayweather saw the type of money and numbers Oscar was doing on his own without Bob Arum. Can you blame a man for wanting to go out on his own to maximize his profit potential?

    As soon as Mayweather left Bob, he signed on to fight Oscar at 154 which was Oscar's present weight at that time. Mayweather later made the Cotto fight that he was so desperately asking for while Bob kept making excuses for not making. Cotto made his biggest payday to this day 8 million dollars.

    So all you haters who always have something to say about Mayweather and ducking and this and that, I am not saying you don't or can't have reason to hate or dislike the guy, but if you really ****yze and listen to what he is saying when he actually being serious, he is very knowledgable about the sport, and its workings.

    He's been on the sidelines for all too long and he feels that he wroked his ass off no shortcuts to position himself to call the shots and he did.
    As much as Pac garnered lots of attention and was the 2nd pound for pouns star to many, he was praised and appreciated a lot more than Mayweather and wasn't held to the same standard.

    Pac fought Morales 3x, imagine if Mayweather fought Guerrero or Mosley 3x, or Marquez 3x, or Maidana 3x, you guys would complain.; But pac can do it and it's okay for him to do it. When Mayweather fights and beats guys he cherry picked them, but when Pac fights blown up guys like Rios, Algerie, and that 135 champ( can't remember his name) it was okay. mayweather fights a rematch with a guy who many claimed won the fight and then you guys complain that he easily beats him the second time around.

    Pac was destroying guys in the welterweight division knocking them ass out. As sson as Pac was called out on steroid use, those same knockouts vanished. Why? Where did they go? How come he hasn't been able run through these weaker guys he's been fighting? Is it cause he's getting older? Cause you know Mayweather is older than him. Did you know Mayweather can probably go down to 140 and fight rather than fight these guys who come in 20 -25 lbs heavier.

    My problem with Mayweather is not the money part because I believe that Pac has no power at the table. He's lost, ppv numbers have dropped, compeitition is far weaker than what Mayweather has been fighting against, and plus Pac has stated on numerous occasions that he would fight for free or charity, then there should be no hold up. Take the money that is being offered to you and fight.

    Did Pac not see what has happened to Oscar and Mayweather and Cotto since They all left. Mayweather said many years ago that pac has the worldt deal in boxing and everyone was upset then to see it was true.

    Mayweather dictates the terms whether you love him or despise him, but at least admire him for the skills he brings to the ring.

    This fight if made will be a joke, and then you same haters will say Mayweather waited until Pac got old when Mayweather is older lolol.

    If Pac can't get the Mayweather fight, maybe he can go fight someone like Ortiz, or Canelo, Khan which will have a great story line, Thurman, even Adrien Broner would be fantastic. The problem is that it will never happen.

    Lastly, trying to push Canelo and Cotto May 2, when mayweather already fights there and asking him to move is ridiculous and now he's ducking cause he's doesn't want to move.

    Just be bias about the two fighters.
     
  5. remi

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    when it is all said and done, mayweather will be spoken about in the highest regard for what he did in the ring and how he did it. Mentally, he is probably one of the smartest fighters ever.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :good

    Although the biggest name he will always be affiliated with (regardless of whether or not they ever fight) is Pacquiao. And that speaks volumes in itself.

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  7. jc

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    However talented he is, him ducking Manny Pacquiao has already defined his legacy. Its a shame.
     
  8. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I stopped reading the bit where you put Morales in the same sentence as Guerrero.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    :lol:


    Can't believe he made that comparison
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Well said
     
  11. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At the moment it does yes, and this is part of his own doing. But it doesn't have to.
     
  12. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I know! :lol::lol:
     
  13. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO that train has gone already. Manny isn't what he was 2009-2011 anymore. Fighting Manny won't prove anything. Its like cotto-May all over again: four years late!!
     
  14. BEATDOWNZ

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    I agree. Still, the only thing worse than fighting Manny Pac that is past his prime is not facing Manny Pac at all!
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Agreed, but someone said his resume is complete trash. 1 fight out of 49 is not going to save it. Therefore, it's irrelevant.