Does Floyd's undefeated record define his Legacy?

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Most of Pac's best wins were with opponents passed their prime. Can't fight them all.
     
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  2. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no he will be remembered for ducking Paquiao and being a safety first cherry picker.

    TBE- the best excuse
     
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  3. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Manny's mexicutioner run is legendary. And those boys were on their top game.
     
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  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really his legacy can rise or fall he has to fight Pacquiao preferably next. regardless though I think boxing heads will remember him more for his 5* division title's,4*lineal titles, and most champs beaten all time, while being unbeaten. Detractors will probably call him a skilled ducker.

    I think fight he finishes with Manny next, Cotto/Canelo winner after, then Brook/Khan winner for IBF WW title, it would be hard to deny him as one of the absolute top ATG's.
     
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  5. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Them guys are all good NAMES & Hof/Atg type fighters but in 9 fight's

    MAB I - great/solid win(Barerra was on a solid run one of Pac's best)
    JMM I - draw
    EM I - EM was coming off a loss, and Pac loss this fight
    EM II - was coming off another loss
    EM III - still coming off a loss this time to Pac(went on to lose next 3 bouts)
    JMM II - bit of a bad decision near robbery
    MAB II = coming off a loss
    JMM III = unquestionable robbery
    JMM IV = KO loss

    in 9 fight's it's only 1/2 good wins Barerra I, and Morales II simply because Morales managed to win fight I

    the dude who made the comparison of Guerrero/Morales everybody jumped on just based off name but look at the circumstances, Morales in the middle of a 1 win 6/7 loss streak before retiring for two years then making a comeback. Guerrero 8 year's unbeaten, Titlist in 4 division's, and Champ in 2, coming off wins over the #1&2 ranked contenders under the WBC both were top 6/7 WW at the time. Guerrero's name might not be better but it might be a better win.
     
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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    It has a lot to do with it

    That and titles at different weights

    Ppv numbers
     
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  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Wrong on so many levels.
     
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  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where, what is not a factually verifiable statement? more exciting and more relevant are two different things
     
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  9. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Deconstucted ^
     
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  10. t-boy

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    Nah, I don't believe that. A Pac win would greatly enhance his legacy and give it the respectability it rightfully deserved.
     
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  11. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good to see most people think his legacy will be defined for ducking Pac, which he will be if he never mans up.
     
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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not necessarily ducking Pac. They've had a "feud" going for 5+ years now. He will forever be linked to Pacquiao, no matter what.

    The question is HOW?

    * Will he be known for never fighting his biggest rival?
    ~OR~
    * Will he be known for winning or losing against his rival?

    It comes down to that, but any of those 3 outcomes doesn't change the fact that he will, first and foremost, be linked to Pacquiao.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jan 4, 2015
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  13. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hey floyd fan,

    you can only pick one

    Pac's best wins are against fighters who're passed their prime?

    or

    Pac was on PED's? :rofl
     
    boyschoir, Jan 5, 2015
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  14. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only legacy that his undefeated record echoes is his shameful and blatant ducking of Pacquiao.
    Pacquiao is straight up embarrassing him by repeatedly calling him out and ridiculing him FFS.
     
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  15. jbuffett84

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    I actually respect the early part of his career when he fought the likes of Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Castillo (twice), Manfredy, and Augustus.

    The "0" won't mean much because, no matter how fans may speculate, nobody, not even the omniscient Pauline Malignaggi, could be certain Mayweather would have beaten Pacquiao.

    Sven Ottke retired with a "0" and nobody really cared.
     
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