In hind sight, How should Frazier have fought Foreman?

I dont think it would have made any difference what he tried to be honest,staying outside would just get him jabbed at long range, he would have prolonged the fight but won nothing.
Frazier didn't win a round in either fight.
None of the guys you mentioned hit anywhere near as hard as Foreman, or were as strong and physically imposing.Frazier just didnt have the physical tools to beat a top class super heavyweight with the power Foreman possessed.
Frazier was an attrition puncher but was never going to win a war of attrition with George because he was shipping serious punishment all the time. If he ducked he walked into uppercuts,if he stood up, he got his face jabbed off. Simply put he was too small to be efective inside, George was too big and strong and could tie him up and push him back to optimum range for his swings,and Joe is winning nothing at long range because he would be getting tagged but unable to reply because he was out reached. A lost cause,imo.

 

Frazier basically had one style. There was little he could change.

 

No way Frazier can win this fight any way you spin it. I think the only change he could have made would be to go in even more aggressive and hope to land something big.

 

With a baseball bat

 

...mcvey's ****ysis sums it up perfectly.

i think this applies somewhat to patterson/liston too.

 

In his second bout with George Foreman, Joe Frazier tried to stay away and box him instead of fighting in his usual very aggressive manner. The bout lasted longer than the first, but Joe still ended up getting stopped in the fifth round. Joe simply didn't match up well with George.

- Chuck Johnston

 

In my opinion, the loss had more to do with Joe losing that fire and coming in overweight than anything else. Of course, even FOTC Frazier might have lost to Foreman, but he certainly would have made things a little more difficult than he actually did.

 

I would and it wouldn't be on Joe.

 

I thought Foreman won the 4th with his jab and a big right hand that staggered Frazier,if you wanted to be kind to Joe you might make it an even round.
Its interesting watching it again, seeing how Foreman's punches have a visible effect on Frazier ,whereas when Frazier lands nothing registers on George.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmvPRP6NlA

 

Law suits and paternity suits, until he's a shell of himself, frame him for a crime, kidnap his family and threaten them, drug him, or bribe a ref to disqualify him.

 

It's hard to say. Frazier had a bad style for Foreman because he was there in front of Foreman and unable to take the punishment, which many boxers couldn't really. We found out during Foremans career that he did tire quite quickly and then was there for the taking in the second half of the fights. The best Frazier could do was hope to take Foreman to the later rounds, but then I don't think Frazier could ever do that because he didn't have the style to go himself out of the way of Foreman. Foreman just had a very bad style for Frazier because both we're come forward boxers, it was just that Foreman hit harder and was physically stronger than Frazier. Foreman didn't have a bad chin either, it was just that his stamina was so bad that he basically got exhausted.

 

Right. If this was Rock, Paper, Scissors, Frazier was scissors, and Foreman, the crushing rock.

If I were training Frazier, he would enter the ring in top shape at 200-205 pounds. Speed, defense and movement is needed here! I’d tell him to move around laterally a lot, cover up, and go for counters when Foreman swings wildly.

The goal would be to get Foreman frustrated and take him into the mid rounds where Frazier’s superior stamina and Foreman’s suspect stamina and poise might come into play.

As it was Frazier had a one-track style and one-track way of executing it. To stand in front of Foreman and trade with him was foolish.