MMA vs. Boxing | Salaries, Why The Huge Disparity? 500,000 for Their P4P Fighter?

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  1. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know randy couture had to fight tooth and nail for the current (****ty) deal the best stars get

    **** guaranteed pay
    Plus a tiny percent of PPV after it's guaranteed to do a certain amount of numbers

    Dana White is going to make millions off this the vile snake

    Until another MMA guy gets to the top and holds the company up for a fairer deal and the others do the same, everyone will continue to get fuuked by the UFC

    GSP makes about 2 million a fight after Ppv (if he was a boxer with his huge home audience he would probably be on 10 million)

    Lesnar was probably the biggest star the UFC ever had
    He made 3 million a fight after PPV

    Jon jones used to make 18 000 a fight
    Just over a year ago

    18 000 to risk your life ona PPV

    Dana White is Adolfo hitler times a hundred the SOB
     
  2. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most boxers make like 2k IF they can sell the tickets themselves.

    Low-level UFC fighters get paid much more than average pro boxers, and their mid-level guys get paid FAR more than ther boxing equivalents. How many pro boxers make $50k in a fight? The tip of the iceberg, that's how many. You have guys like Lombard and Cerrone who (equivalent to Diego Chaves) making over 100k. The guys at the top of the rankings might be getting 'underpaid,' but the guys at the bottom and middle are WAY better off than most boxers not named Floyd, Manny, and Cotto. Plus the salaries don't have a promoter dipping into them since the UFC is the promoter, they don't have to pay sanctioning fees for titles, the UFC does MASSIVE publicity pushes for them, and the fighters make money off of endorsements, sponsorships, and advertising.

    I think the pay system is much more fair. The guy who wins gets paid more, and the fights are evenly matched. There are far too many boxers who get matched soft and overpaid (Haymon fighters) while their opponents make jack sh*t. A slight problem I have is that the guys get paid kind of low AND don't fight frequently at all (usually 1-2 times per year for a champ). However, a lot of them have college degrees and can do other things besides fight.

    Ultimately the UFC can pay what they want because they don't have competitors and the sport is still young. They also operate a year-round publicity machine and merchandise line while putting on shows every week, so their expenses are much higher than those of GBP and TR. I like their business model and wouldn't mind it being applied to boxing. They have a stacked card every week, always new talent, exciting fights, and all their fighters get a fair shake at making it to the top.
     
  3. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok so when Mayweather you leave? I wonder what your brown nose would do after he retires and you have no more news. You can always find another boxer to troll for
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It's not really one title per division. It's one title per promotion company and no sanctioning bodies. In boxing the governing bodies hold the titles and the companies hold nothing. The UFC title would be like having a Top Rank or Goldenboy title, which only a dozen fighters in your promotion company can fight for not a world title which a thousand guys can fight for.
     
  5. kirk

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    Any system will have its positives, but the bottom line here is I don't see how anyone besides the suits in the head office at Zuffa cant see that their stars are getting ripped off.

    How can anyone support a business model where the fighters carrying their company get almost criminally underpaid, in one of the most demanding and permanently physically taxing sports in the world.


    And you are selling boxing short. Yes the low level fighters don't make ****, just like low level MMA fighters don't make ****.
    Being a low level UFC fighter is not being a low level MMA fighter. Low level MMA fighters are the guys you will see headlining shows downtown.


    Making it to the UFC is like making it on HBO or SHO, so comparing someone whos made it to UFC isn't the same as comparing it to some guy fighting on the undercard of FNF. Do HBO and SHO guys sometimes get paid small? Yes.... but while you narrow it to Mayweather, Cotto and Pac, lets not kid ourselves

    Danny Garcia
    Donaire
    Broner
    Berto
    Ortiz
    Ward
    Alexander
    Peterson
    Bradley
    Rios
    Alvarado
    Marquez
    Golovkin
    Guerrero
    Canelo
    Matthysse
    Gamboa
    Hopkins
    Kirkland
    Quillan
    Lara
    Martinez


    I could continue rattling off names but I digress....


    And those are just off the top of the head of fighters who make America their home base for fighting and whos payday doesn't come from a huge following in another country, so not counting the likes of Wlad, Khan, Froch, Haye, Povetkin, Bute, Pascal, Kessler, ect.


    So no, its not just the the Cotto's, Pacs and Mayweathers that get paid well. Almost every name listed in this post makes a million here n there in their careers (not even counting the paydays against either Pac, Floyd, or Cotto).... or very close to (700k plus).



    Yes, you might call these guys the tip of the iceberg in boxing, and they are.... but UFC is also the tip of the iceberg in MMA... so we are comparing apples to apples here.

    However, boxers benefits from so many promoters and networks.... obviously GBP, TR, Lou, Main Events, ect.... are able to pay as much as they do because they aren't trying to carry the entire sport on their back, ala UFC.

    That is well understood. I know why boxing is able to pay more, and I don't expect UFC to be able to consistently beat boxing when it comes to fighters salaries.... but for big fights with their flagship fighters, their payouts are embarrassing and I don't see how anyone can deny it, let alone support it.
     
  6. SlickSomalian

    SlickSomalian New Member Full Member

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    FFS why do MMA fans defend and justify Dana White/Zuffa paying their fighters **** and turn and say it's a great model. No other sports has fans that hop in and defend the promoter like re****ed MMA fans.

    The whole idea that UFC is stacked with the best fighting the best is a ****ing myth and joke that I hear all the time from re****ed UFC fans. A guy with a record of 4-0 fighting a guy 5-2 with god aweful drunken dirty boxing (striking as MMA's like to call it) shouldn't even be televised. In boxing it's not padding the record, it's called the filtering out the bums.

    UFC promotion is a joke, UFC competition is a joke and UFC pay is the joke.

    Have fun watching a 3-2 record tattooed trailer trash looking wrassler dry hump another for minimum wage.
     
  7. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
    If you say so
     
  8. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    GSP does $5 Milllion per fight.
     
  9. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/dana-white-net-worth/

    Dana White worth £300 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/chuck-liddell-net-worth/

    Chuck Liddell who literally poured his blood into MMA when it was on oife support is worth £14 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/randy-couture-net-worth/

    Randy couture £17 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/quinton-rampage-jackson-net-worth/

    Rampage jackson £12 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/georges-st-pierre-net-worth/

    Gsp £25 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/jon-bones-jones-net-worth/

    Jon jones £10 million

    Hmm I wonder who is making the big money here

    Compared to

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/amir-khan-net-worth-2/

    Amir khan 30 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/carl-froch-net-worth/

    Froch 20 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/miguel-cotto-net-worth/

    Cotto 15 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/bob-arum-net-worth/

    Bob arum 200 million

    So bob arum who is universally hated in boxing has leeched less money than Dana White

    And unlike Dana White he's actually known to have done some positives for boxers ( saved mayweather from getting shot for money he owed gangsters and paying mayweather's bill)

    I guess you will say that if you are not in the UFC you must be broke as an mma guy

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/mma-net-worth/fedor-emelianenko-net-worth/

    Fedor 15 million
     
  10. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.cagepotato.com/dana-whit...uggling-new-fighters-are-forced-to-crowdfund/

    UFC contracted fighters have to go crowd funding and online begging to get their. Epically bills paid

    .....wow

    I would never pay a penny for a UFC fight because I don't like watching to fat sweating men hug each other

    But even for the **** fans of mma this is pathetic

    How come so many mma fighters only hate the UFC but used to live pride

    Now pride was real mixed martial ars

    Not this wrestler hugging **** **** the UFC is
     
  11. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Who cares? A huge amount of people could only dream of earning any of these amounts.
     
  12. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude should be paid in the miilions
     
  13. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't the UFC have about 300 fighters signed or some ****? Some of them have like 3 fights or so. They don't deserve to be able to live off their 2 fights per year at the lowest levels of MMA. Most boxers who aren't in title contention have to work full-time jobs to get by. MMA isn't any different.

    I agree that a lot of them are underpaid. But the sport has a huge problem because of one inherent weakness: It's easy to win by pushing an opponent to the cage and holding them there or taking them down and laying on them.

    The goal of their pay system is to discourage that type of fighter and encourage the ones who make good fights.

    Should they get paid more? Yes. Or they should fight more. Cerrone is doing fine because he fights all the time and people like to see him.

    A lot of their pay comes n the form of unreported bonuses too, so there's really no way to tell how much they get paid.
     
  14. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The answer is pretty simple. Boxing was given a 100 year head start to build a fan base. As a result, there are far more Boxing fans than MMA fans. The fact that it's an Olympic sport only adds to it's legitimacy. I thoroughly enjoy both sports by the way.
     
  15. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    No way is Cotto worth only $15 million. He has easy $100 million.

    He has been getting big purses for years, has been a big name for years and apparently owns multiple gas stations in PR.

    Dude is chunked.