Deontay Wilder. I don't blame him.

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This guy gets too much hate and I get it... He has hype and people hate on fighters they feel are overhyped. He seems like an ok dude and I like how he is finally getting annoyed with people criticizing his resume. I assume it means he fells he is ready to step up.

    The problem is, his p*ss poor management have virtually guaranteed he will fail. He started boxing late and didn't have much time in the Ams. He has only been 58 rounds in 32 fights! That is ridiculous. At some point you have to say "OK, lets put him in with a light punching, technical boxer who can at least take him into deep rounds" But they didn't, so he never had to learn to do anything put throw the overhand right. When he faces someone who can neutralize that, he is toast and won't have any answers for it.

    I don't dislike or like the guy as a fighter but I've seen about 6 of his fights at various points of his career and he hasn't evolved. How could he? The guys only last 1 round.

    He beats Brezeale for sure... but he will never beat a guy like Wlad. He wouldn't beat Fury either IMO. I don't know if he had a chance to be great, but his management made sure it wouldn't happen. Much respect if he beats Stiverne.
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    His management knows something, which is why they've fed him only stiffs.

    He can't take a punch. Any decent HW will shatter his glass jaw, which is why he's been fighting for SIX YEARS and hasn't fought any.

    Til now. And we will see why when his fragile mandible is blown to smithereens.
     
  3. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest he aint that bad. He got a olympic bronze medal after like 30 amateur bouts I don't think anyone in history has acomplished that before.

    But all the what ifs will be straightend out anyways. I think and I hope we all got to watch a exciting heavyweight title bout.

    The counter that his management has done a poor job. I think Wilder needed experience and he has gotten that. Is it too soon to challenge stiverne for a world title, maybe but then again maybe not. He's here now and he is the challenger so I don't think these things matters very much once he is in the ring anyways.
     
  4. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    People talk about D. Wilder's Chin all the time, but they don't seem to wonder what kind of gas tank he has. We still don't know if he's got decent stamina yet.

    At any rate, if he wins against B. Stiverne, what people say about it will be predicated upon what actually takes place in the fight from the opening bell to its conclusion.

    Don't see this one going the distance either way. Bombs away.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Wilder beats Stiverne people will play it down as a fluke. They'll say Stiverne is **** and Wilder has to yet to beat a legit opponent.
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Think you forgot about George Foreman :good

    But he has some attributes that make him dangerous against any guy out there. Huge reach, big power, good speed.
    He's no 2nd Seth Mitchell like some here believe.
     
  7. trollhunter

    trollhunter Guest

    his bronze medal was a joke and the softest in olympic history

    first he beat a terrible Algerian in a close enough bout

    he then faced a fat short Morrocan who is also terrible and beat him on count back, in fact most people taught it was a robbery

    he then faced his first decent opponent in the semi in Clemente Russo a guy not even 6 foot and he lost 8-1. He got destroyed and embarrassed and the commonators were ripping the **** of out Wilder
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He gets the right amount of hate.

    They hate outright frauds even more.

    Except when he is beating up hookers, insulting Mike Tyson who could beat him right now, hyping matches with crash test dummies, bragging about power which is still not really tested, banking questionable "victories," making strange video's with gay Mardi Gras masks, etc.

    A lot of us don't find him at all "ok." He is a bit of a punk and a moron.

    Indeed, he has been drinking his own bath water. He should have tried fighting a real opponent.

    You mean, ready to "cash out."

    The ****? His management has kept him alive after near disasters with Harold Scoiners and carnival fat man Dustin Nichols. He has guaranteed that he will fail. By sucking.

    Similar to Rocky Marciano, or even Tyson Fury, who has at least beaten a couple of live bodies.

    They did that against Malik Scott. Of course, the fight was not entirely legit, so it seems they knew that they could not chance even that.

    This is the point where we have to explain the elephant in the room. He has one of the worst chins in heavyweight boxing history, and so they cannot put him in with ANYBODY with impunity. The only halfway decent guy they dared put him in against was Malik Scott- his very good friend who fell down in his second suspicious stoppage loss in a row.

    He can beat a lot of guys if he lands the big right, and there are a lot of guys who will win against him ten times out of ten because of his weak chin and crude skills. That will never change. As delineated, he is not even good enough to take tough fights and get experience. With a carefully managed career, he can be another Gerry ****ey- riding squash matches to big money pay offs which he will always loose.

    Last thought- Wilder is the perfect illustration of why the goof ***** who think that the real champ is in the NBA have rocks in their brains and don't understand the sport. There is no such thing as "athleticism." Athletic excellence is sport specific. The ability to jump twelve feat in the air does not give you a good chin. The ability to sink a three point shot does not mean you can hit a heavy bag for three even three minutes. Its all apples and oranges.
     
  9. MN_Logan

    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No punch resistance + nonexistent defense = KTFO by the first decent HW he fights.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    It is basically the Gerry ****ey story 30 years later except for the fact that Gerry was better than Wilder will ever be.
     
  11. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Who's hyping Wilder? How many cards has he headlined on either Showtime or HBO?
     
  12. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    This. Stiverne is ****, Wilder still wont have faced a decent heavy. The whole Wilder career is a farce.
     
  13. True_Hero

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    I wouldn't call Stiverne a bum but I'd put him below Chisora who is a C-Level fringe contender. Stiverne is a D-Level fighter. An OK name on a resume; basically a similar class opponent to Christian Hammer.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Chisora is awful. Lost every big fight he has been in. Stiverne's 2 wins over Arreola are better than anything Chisora has done.
     
  15. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    wow, the delusion is strong in this one