Fact or Fiction: A Boxer's Hands Are Considered Weapons in a Court of Law

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  1. thejudochop

    thejudochop Active Member Full Member

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    I did some research on this and I found this statement from Peppermint to be accurate. The prosecution would use it to maybe get a harder sentence but there is nothing that says they would be considered "assault with a deadly weapon" or anything like that.
     
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    two years suspended and three grand compo due to character references off teachers , local mayor , his trainer , and a care work for unruly kids
    i can asure you his sentnce was not an urban legend :bart
    and i was in court when he stated it , as said the opposite side pushed for it
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know what the law says but If you use it as a weapon, it should be considered a weapon.
     
  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not disputing what you heard the judge say but a fighter or martial artist's hands are not legally considered any more dangerous than anyone else's hands. The State may try to get a harsher sentence as discussed above but there is no additional legal liability. Judges spout a lot of **** from the bench sometimes.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It depends on where, and is a judicial discretionary matter.

    So, yes, a fact, sometimes.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It depends on how high said boxer's KO percentage is.
     
  7. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends if the boxer goes full re**** or not really. Self defence shouldnt be any issues providing they believe the fighters version of events.

    My mate got three years after battering three lads who set about him. He did f*ck them up though.
     
  8. boxingfan474

    boxingfan474 Active Member Full Member

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    deontay wilder!
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    A British pro named Garry Delaney killed a man with a single punch in 2005 and is still serving a prison sentence for it now. Delaney was pretty useful and fought some very good fighters (David Haye being the most famous of them) and he could really bang when he fought down at 175.

    'A bouncer and former boxing champion who killed a man with a single punch has been jailed for life for murder.
    Garry Delaney, 35, punched Paul Price "without warning" after throwing his friend out of a hotel bar in Woodford, east London, in October 2005.

    Sentencing him to serve at least 11 years in jail, Judge Clement Goldstone QC told Delaney, from east London, he had acted like a bully towards the men.

    "Your fist became a lethal weapon and you must now pay the price," he said.

    The trial heard Delaney, an experienced boxer who had fought at light heavyweight and cruiser weight, would have known the punch "was likely to cause really serious harm".

    That night Mr Price, 23, and his friend James Farrell had gone to a disco but had been turned away because they did not meet the dress code.

    They went to the hotel's bar instead, but the barman asked Delaney to remove Mr Farrell, who he thought was being "troublesome".

    The trial heard Delaney then appeared to spray Mr Farrell in the face with pepper spray, dragged him outside, dumped him in the shrubbery and punched him.

    When Mr Price remonstrated, Delaney beckoned him over to where his friend was lying and then hit him "without warning or reason", the court heard.

    Fractured skull

    Mr Price's head hit the ground, fracturing his skull. Despite surgery, he died later.

    The trial heard Delaney did not hang around to finish his shift, but left so fast in his BMW he forgot to put his headlights on.

    Passing sentence, Judge Goldstone said: "It is often said that a bully is a coward.

    "On that night you behaved like a bully towards James Farrell and Paul Price, and when you knew that both of them were injured, at least one of them seriously, you responded like a coward.

    "Boxing is an honourable sport but you totally abused the skills that you had acquired as a boxer." Delaney was sentenced to life and will serve at least 11 years before being considered for parole - less the 292 days he has spent on remand.

    He was also given a nine-month concurrent sentence for assaulting Mr Farrell.

    The former boxer, from Newham, had denied murder.
     
  10. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His fist became a lethal weapon when he struck him, not before. If you hit someone and killed them, then your fist became a lethal weapon. Maybe the UK's laws are different but there is no law on the books in any US jurisdiction that states a fighter's hands need to registered as weapons.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    His abnormally high flawless 100% KO percentage is completely undermined by him not being able to knock out the embarrassingly feeble and inept Charlie Z. lol.
     
  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's on YT.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I wasn't suggest otherwise. I'm not familiar with the law over here or anywhere else regarding that to be honest. I just thought I'd share that story in case anyone was interested.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    So it is. :good

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    Here's a short highlight vid of him when he was at his best weight and considered a big banger. Not a very nice chap by all accounts, or so I've heard.

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  15. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was just commenting on your post, not trying to attack or dispute anything contained therein.I don't know how familiar you are with NBA basketball but there was a player named Kermit Washington who almost killed another player named Rudy Tomjanovich on the court with a single punch. Washington was about 6'9" and a practicing martial artist. To think that someone like Malignaggi would be required to register his hands while Washington wasn't is comical.