Is Sugar Ray Leonard the best fighter ever?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's such a f*cking idiot!

    If Floyd ever loses, he'll have to delete his account.

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  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First off, I am not particularly a Ray Leonard fan. Secondly, I already posted on this thread he is not the best boxer of all time even though he has an excellent body of work. I see you have trouble seeing the big picture when judging a boxing career. Do I really have to spell it out for you?. Okay f_it. Leonard's loss to Camacho is rather unimportant relative to his carrer work because he was a 41 year old retiree who had not fought in six years. Larry Holmes kos a shot Ali. Rocky Marciano kos a badly faded Joe Louis. Here's another example. Even you should understand this one because it involves a fighter you evidently worship. A shopworn Terry Norris is stopped by a mediocre Keith Mullings. Does anyone hold these losses against these guys when looking at their career body of work? Not really. Same with Leonard v. Camacho. Sir, you cannot see the forest for the trees.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Perhaps a bit of assistance is needed here..........you see, Rooster isn't so much in love with Terry Norris as he is a Leonard basher. To the extreme. In his world, which must be very interesting and colorful indeed, Leonard was just as prime against Norris and Camacho as he was against Hearns in 1981. That way, he can more easily fit his argument in some kind of box and make it fit.

    In his world, that is. He's been here damn near as long as I have and the only thing he will comment on is either Leonard, Hagler, Norris, or Camacho because of the tie-ins with Leonard. He's smart enough, he's just a bit of a one-trick pony. He's also batsh/t crazy, but you may have sussed that out already.
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    stop repeating yourself. all you got is four name opponents; one of them washed up. another a lightweight. BIG DEAL!

    Duran was a very decent opponent but he was still a lightweight. Wasn't Leonard SUPPOSED to win?

    Yet people like you will preach to people like me that Hector beating Leonard is meaningless

    The way I see it, a blown up featherweight knocking out a welterweight is more impressive than a welterweight beating a lightweight ANY DAY!

    so why you go around repeating yourself when I know what I know?

    Benitez. he was nothing. no heart. just a good defensive fighter. that was it

    Hearns was the only one really considered a threat becuz he was on his way up

    so Leonard really has one big win

    but wasnt good enough to rematch him when it counted

    or good enough to take the Hagler fight when it counted

    or good enough to take the fight with Nunn

    or the fight with Pryor

    Or the fight with Curry

    all I see is a bunch of refusals and a bunch of excuses coming from people like you.

    excuses like, let's see, how does that go again? "Everyone's circumstances are different."

    that's sorry asss s**** doesnt even have any relevence


    in fact, all his fans are about is concocting excuses for him. all the while Floyd the great is zero losses for forty eight at age thirty eight

    so dont give me none of that cuz all rey had to do was get by Norris like he was supposed to!
     
  5. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Prime Leonard HAMMERS Floyd at WW. Case closed!
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    don;t listen to him Saad. this guy has a criminal record and was locked up for getting out of hand. that's why he was gone from the forum all those years

    Me? I have no record whatsoever and a FICO score of 844

    so pay no heed to these ex cons okay?

    remember, that's what ex cons do: they (sociopaths) will actually paint the good guys out to be the bad guys.

    so remember, it's all about credibility and you know that convicts have none which is why they cant get hired and head back to that revolving door of the pen
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I definitely go along with you if rey had some big wins over Pryor & Curry cuz seeing is believing!

    adding even more credibility would have been a win over the young but very dangerous Micheal Nunn

    If rey was all that we would at least have the matchup with Nunn. after all, he was active
     
  8. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    duran wasn't still a lightweight, he was an ex lightweight.
     
  9. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    All Ray needs is the win over Hearns AT WELTER! Are you blind?

    Ray kills Floyd at 147/154.
     
  10. the factor

    the factor Active Member banned Full Member

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    Pull your head in and get your history books out before you make statements like '" no one in history has gone unbeaten for as long as floyd." Chavez Zarate Olivaries Holmes Marciano Lopez Neilson are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head who went better than 47-0. The best fighters Mayweather has fought are old Mosely past his best DLH and2 divisions lighter Marques. All good fighters but don't compare with Hagler Hearns Benitez and Duran. If all things being equal with weights etc prime Mayweather against prime SRL Hagler Benitez Duran Hearns Pryor DLH Trindad RJJ he goes somewhere between 2-7 and 0-9 so shut the fu** up and and get off Mayweathers di**. By the way Camacho beating Leonard does not count. Leonard was 41 and hadn't fought in 5 years.
     
  11. salsanchezfan

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    :lol:
     
  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the funniest damn thing.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he's a blownup lightweight which is even worse becuz he's not built for that division and is carrying extra weight which affects his speed, and in reality, Duran was only 50%. his best years were in the 70s. after that he just as leftovers
     
  14. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what's up felon? I mean, fella
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it doesn't count? why, becuz you say so?

    it counts more than a welterweight beating a lightweight (cough Duran!)

    so get off Ray's ****!

    Floyd is unbeaten at age 38 which is something no other fighter has done at this age. That means FLoyd is exceptional. That's why he gets paid the big bucks and the recognition and never been close to being beaten

    BTW, Leonard was 40, not 41 u LIAR! Hector was 35 and a blown up featherweight and gave away all physical advantages so guess what? D*:sillyJ*N*:nut YOU MOTHER @#%#&{>|

    and your mother too!!!! :lol: