Chavez vs Taylor

Based off the Jose Luis Castillo fight, I beg to differ. Chavez is about 100X better than Castillo in every department, and Mayweather had a difficult time with him twice, especially ion the first fight that ended in an extremely controversial win for Mayweather.

 

Why not? Are you or are you not part of ADMIN here?

What type of say do you have around here, or is "ADMIN" just a title for the number of posts you have?

If you have some say around here Isal, dont be the problem, be part of the solution. This forum is nowhere what it once was.

I used to enjoy posting here, not so much anymore.

 

The reason this place stinks is because we have about 100 Pacturds and about 100 Phlomoes spamming the site and invading threads and destroying them with their childish nuthugging.

Then we have these mods who don't know WTF they are doing.

FFS you can't even use the word

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, what kind of Sh!t is this??!!

 

That was Pbfs first fight at 135 he was injured going in and he was outweighed by almost 20 pounds. The rematch tells you everything you need to know. Chavez was schooled by pea Whitaker badly. I think pbf could do the same.

 

Can't have it both ways. By the time they fought Whitaker was an elite top P4P Champion ATG, and Chavez was moving up in weight and had seen his best days.

Jose Luis Castillo was the Light weight Champ, and a poor mans version of Chavez.

Chavez>Castillo

 

Pea Whitaker schools any version of Chavez it would be worse at 135.

 

Pea possibly beats any version of Chavez, but let's not get carried away here, Chavez was a beast, and a prime Chavez just like a Prime Pea does not get "schooled" by anyone.

 

Actually Taylors trainer, Lou Duva distracted Taylor(shouting instructions) while Steele was asking him if he was alright causing taylor to turn his head Duvas way instead of looking into Steeles eyes and answering his question.

 

The Duva's did'nt think so.
They actually had Whitaker bypass 140 lbs and avoided Chavez there.
They were right in there thinking though. I think they knew Chavez who allready had been in 3 weight classes, would'nt be as strong at 147 lbs against Whitaker who carried that weight better.

.....and no, even then Whitaker did not dominate. He ran from Chavez. Literally ran most rounds, which is why the judges were swayed to give such rounds to Chavez.

Imo there were only two rounds in that fight Whitaker won clearly, the rest were up for grabs and determined on preference of styles.
A similar thing happend to Whitaker vs DLH, he ran to much and his punches were consistently aimed and not thrown with authority.

Dominate Whitkaer did not, its just clowns like yourself that have a scorecard filled out based on racial preference.
Dont think anyone here does'nt allready know taht about you Pimp.

 

you're just as bad as those judges that scored the fight a draw. Pea put on a clinic hit him with combos and power shots and took little in return it was funny to watch. A schooling if there ever was one 9-3 at worst. Yeah he was scared of Chavez at the lower weights if that helps you sleep better so be it. The truth is that pea Whitaker is a stylistic nightmare for Chavez and the better atg. If anyone has a racial bias it's you. Pea >Chavez period and only a racist such as yourself would disagree.

 

If Taylor was distracted by Duva who Taylor allready knew was a "character" that only goes to show how really buzzed and unstable he was.

Seems like there's a million different excuses people use at to why and who was the culprit in the fight getting stopped. So many people point fingers everywhere but to the man who could have gotten his hands off the ring ropes, raised them up as so many fighters do when they've been knocked down, and shown Richard Steele, "I'm good to go!"

I see it all the time with even fighters that are extremely physically hampered and hurt, but there thinking is still coherent. The first thing that enters there mind is "I got to show the ref I'm allright to continue."

You look at Meldrick Taylor getting up from that knockdown and he's all "heart" because his brain was'nt coherent enough to know there's a man in the ring called a "ref" he has to show he's good to keep going.
For most of Steele's count, Meldrick Taylor had a zone out look on his face. It was'nt really ti'll Steele waves his arms that Taylor reacts and say's "what!"
........Even then Taylor wont let go of the ropes.

 

Draw as it should have been.
You dont score a round based on having a great round earlier.

Whitaker ran to much and he was'nt countering Chavez' aggression.
Take a good look at Marquez' fights with Manny Pacquiao, thats how you counter aggression. Not by running, posing, and smiling as if to say, "you cant hit me!"
If you make a fighter miss, make him pay, and Whitaker simply did not do that for most of the fight.

You probably had Whitaker beating Wilfredo Rivera the first time. A fight clear as day should have been Rivera's.

Capeche!

 

He was, never said he wasn't. He was seconds away from losing to Taylor, and got a boxing clinic put on him by Sweet Pea. I think even you would agree, Mayweather would give Chavez a boxing lesson at any weight.

 

I agree I have seen moments of that fight in which Chavez defense looks sharp.

 

Hey, have'nt seen you post in awhile. Where you been?

......and you're absolutely right about Chavez' defense against Whitaker. His defense is often overlooked
Whitaker's best rounds in that fight came right after he blatantly hit Chavez square on the nuts twice in succession.

They were both on defensively.
Chavez gets about zero credit for that by most, and when you consider how aggressive Chavez was in their fight, it makes his defense that much more impressive.

Because Chavez is stereotyped an an offensive fighter, his defense in fights such as Whitakers is overlooked.