Criticizing Jones' resume

Your still a Calzaghe fanboy wether your American or Brit


So you blame the Americans for not making certain fights , meanwhile you support a UK fighter who padded his record and never fought anyone worth mentioning until late into his career who was also tied into a major network ??Again this is why you can't be taken seriously .

 

I'm not sure Roy could get credit from a certain segment for doing anything.

And I agree if he would have beat, say, Steve Collins but not fought Reggie Johnson the likes of KillSomething would be like: "He never fought Reggie Johnson! He ducked Johnson!"

Or if he beat up Rocchiagni but didn't fight Virgil Hill, they'd be like: "Rocchiagni was a stiff Eurobum who lost to Maske twice. Why did he fight that slow-footed Italian who got a gift against a faded Nunn and duck Virgil Hill! He ducked Hill! Hill called him out one time, I have a quote! It's all elaborately documented!"

 

What i find most funny is when an American RJJ dominates a weightclass in a weak era he is labeled as the best ever lhw and whatnot.

BUT! when a non-american do the same, Klitschko(s), they are glass-jawed, cherry-picking, frauds who would have been KO'ed by any boxer in any earlier era... :huh Furthermore they are labelled as ducking any decent opponent, until they fight said opponent and win, instantly transforming that opponent into a bum/can/taxidriver, who never had any skill in the "experts eyes".

 

it goes both ways and both sides are idiots. maybe you haven't read this or any threads about jones/klit before, or maybe you're another idiot.

 

Just how ignorant can a man be?

Don't run away, and answer these questions.

How did Roy avoid Liles? You've been shown a video and a link, that both state that Frankie turned down the fight. His manager called him foolish, and then walked away from him, because he blew a great fight.

How the f*ck are you going to argue against his own managers comments?

How did he avoid Eubank? You haven't got a clue.

How did he avoid Benn?

How did he avoid Hopkins? HBO admitted that he tried to make the fight.

How did avoid Dariusz? HBO tried to make the fight for him in the U.S.

Calzaghe avoided nobody? He could have gone to LHW much sooner than he did.

I've seen some jokers on this site, but none that will argue against actual evidence.

atsch

 

This is correct.

It would never be enough.

I debated with a guy on here a few years ago, and he posted a list of fighters who Roy didn't fight while he was at SMW.

He said it was from another site, and it was basically ripping Roy for fighting who he did, and for not fighting a whole list of deserving challenges.

It turned out that some of these deserving fighters who Roy missed while he was at SMW, were guys that weren't even fighting at SMW at the time.

Some of the names were hilarious.

Like Ray Close.

No disrespect to Ray, but as if Ray Close was deserving of a fight against Roy.

The list had about 14 fighters on it, and only half of them were relevant.

 

Seriously, how old are you?

I have to know.


When two guys don't meet, it's not an automatic duck.

Do you understand?


Roy did not want to fight Dariusz in Germany.

Likewise, Dariusz did not want to fight Roy in the U.S.

Efforts were made by Kerry Davis of HBO, to make the fight.

You cannot say that Roy ducked him, and you can't also hold him solely responsible for the fight not having taken place.


Most big fights are hard to make.

Now you have no understanding of what happens behind the scenes.

There's fighters with huge egos.

There's rival promoters.

There's rival networks.

There's often promoters that want future options on the opponents.

There's arguments over the venues, and the upside of the PPV money, etc.


It's not easy.

Just listing fighters who Roy missed, and then claiming 'duck' is just ignorance.


Now why are you dismissing evidence, and refusing to allow for any circumstances?

 

If i was wrong you can blame boxrec, since that was the source. It still doesnt change that he COULD have fought had he really wanted to. Does it really matter when a fighter fought? I mean with so much advanced technology and training methods than why couldnt he have fought if he had wanted to?

 

They should certainly be more knowledgable of the situation theyre putting themselves in while fighter for ABC trinkets.

My question stands though...why couldnt he?

 

My respects to KillSomething for challenging the tiresome narrative that has become every morons default setting on here who lacks critical thinking and who's only talent is an alarming penchant for following the herd off a cliff.