Heavyweights punching power then and now

Vitali and Vladimir Klitschko hite extremely hard.

 

Ok, look at track and field athletes. the 100m sprint back in the 50's had a world record of over 10 seconds, probably closer to 11 seconds. today, the women run that. i obviously dont have the stats at hand, but all physical records are leaps and bounds above what they were even 20 years ago. hockey players are skating faster and shooting harder, runningbacks are quicker, golfers are hitting longer drives...why is it so hard to imagine a boxer can get better in time?
its simple that all athletes today are bigger, stronger, and faster than athletes from yesteryear, and boxers are no exception.

 

The myth that the fighters of the 90's hit harder is B.S. Foreman was knocked

down 4 times by fighters from the 70's but not one time by the bigger

stronger fighters of the 90's. Let's not forget Foreman was fat and old

and much easier to hit in the 90's yet not one fighter from the 90's put him

on his ass.

Smaller heavyweights such as Shavers, Weaver, Norton, and Snipes in the 70's did a lot more damage to

Holmes then Mercer or McCall in the 90's. The same Mercer and McCall that gave Lewis all he could handle

 

That's my point Stewart landed so many punches and he still could not get Foreman out. Lyle

had Foreman in big trouble with one punch in the first round . If a fighter from the 70's

landed the 15 punch combination like Holyfield did in the 7th round of their fight Foreman

would of been knocked out

I don't care if he paced himself when your that out of shape you get tired fast. If the Foreman of the 90's fought in

the 70's he would of been knocked out on more then one occassion

 

all im going to say with punching power is some guys have and some guys dont.

i think it is just something you get blessed with personally it has nothing to do with technique or timing but is just one of those things.

like say Haerns,Tszyu,Foreman,Hamed,Pacquiao,Tyson,Gunboat Smith those guys just are born with it.

its like baseballers are born with having quick batspeed and some pitchers are born with having a super fastball.

i say though that there is no way that Klitschko or Maskeav or any of those guys even Lennox Lewis hit harder than Foreman.
there KO's would come from timing not so much brutal power like George had.

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl atsch

 

If the guy couldnt KO 80 kg man, how can we compare him with Tua or Tyson? It is impossible.

 

In 1950 Bob Feller, of the Cleveland Indians, was clocked at 100 MPH. In 1941 Lefty Grove was said to have thrown 99 to 101 MPH consistantly. In the 80's Nolan Ryan waa clocked at 104 MPH.
There was also a relief pitcher for the Yankees, Ryne Duran, who constantly threw 98 to 100MPH and all he had was that fast ball. He was the best relief pitcher in the game then and the reason he was so effective with only a fast ball is he was 90 percent blind. He didn't know who was at bat until the announcer called out his name. He led the league with hit batters and they were petrified of him. His era in 1953 was .080.
There were guys in the past that threw as hard as they do today.

 

Foreman was never hit by Lennox Lewis or either Klitschko. In fact, the guys he fought in the 90s were about the same size as the ones he fought back in the day. He said Cooney hit him every bit as hard as Lyle or Frazier and he was starting to get nervous until Cooney froze long enough for Big George to konk him. Morrison is the other big puncher that Foreman faced, problem is again, Morrison had a big punch like Shavers and Lyle but he was about the same size as them and Morrison wisely didn't sit down on any of his punches thrown vs Big George chosing to wisely box and stay out of George's way. I think if Lewis had hit George everybody would have seen the difference. Instead we end up using Holyfield, Moorer, Shulz as the measuring stick of the time. Holy and Moorer were pretty good punchers but not comparable to Lewis or the Klitschkos, Shulz would be doing good to cook eggs for breakfast.


As for Valuev, he seldom sat down on his punches. Most of them were arm punches. If he would have thrown with full power he would have gassed after four rounds but he was smart enough to use his huge stature to wear his opponents down for the most part instead of wearing himself out.

 

Shannon Briggs and Alex Stewart - along with Tommy Morrison - were probably the hardest punchers Foreman fought in the 90s. They hit hard, but maybe they boxed safely against Foreman. But maybe Lewis would have boxed safely against Foreman. So we will never know.

I dont see any evidence to believe the Klitschkos and Lewis hit any harder than Foreman and Shavers. They all hit hard.

 

That a whole different thing, has nothing to with what you said. If you see the punch coming your brain subconsciously prepares for the impact in a split second and is therefore able to handle it better. If you don't see the punch coming it can't do that and that's why those punches have more effect.

 

You see the punch coming, you instinctively move out of the way or put something between you and the punch, spoiling the accuracy of the punch. The unseen punch has more of a chance of landing flush with the target.