How Does The Forum Score The 2nd Frazier v Foreman Fight

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I've been having a debate with Mongoose about the Foreman v Frazier second fight. He scores the 4 completed rounds for 1,2,&4 for Frazier, with the 3rd being close, but Foreman just edging it.
    I score all of them for Foreman with the 4th arguably an even round.Which of us IYO, is nearer the mark?

    Here is the fight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmvPRP6NlA
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    That was my initial post before getting my memory refreshed with a rewatch.

    3 is a clear Foreman round, and I think many would favor Foreman in 1 for being busier though neither man lands much. My challenge is to argue Rounds 2 and 4 for Foreman.

    1 Frazier
    2 Frazier
    3 Foreman
    4 Frazier
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

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    Here is how I scored the first three rounds.
    Round 1- Frazier not going forward, but being cautious early. Foreman is sticking and landing good jabs and straight rights early. Frazier is covering up but still being hit by some of George's shots. Foreman is landing well here early. Foreman's Round- 10-9

    Round 2- Foreman is sticking the jab and Frazier lands a looping right. Foreman landing short crisp punches, but takes a good left hook from Frazier. Foreman digs underneath and lands well. Frazier lands another hook, but Foreman is getting the better of it. Foreman's Round- 10-9 (20-18) Foreman

    Round 3- Foreman comes out popping the jab. Frazier comes back with his own jab, but takes a clubbing right from Foreman to the body. Foreman is landing nice shots now and Joe is covering up. He is trying to come off the ropes with nice hooks, but is getting in. Foreman is landing well with uppercuts and Frazier appears a little stunned. Foreman's Round- 10-9 (30-27) Foreman
     
  4. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How Did The Forum Score The 2nd Frazier v Foreman Fight

    The forum didn't exist then.
     
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  5. energie

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    i scored every rd george foreman
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This is possibly the best post you have made, which rather puts you into perspective.:good
     
  7. LouisA

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    I watched it quite recently and Frazier did much better than I remebered, and I gave him the fourth round, but the rest is all Foreman. Frazier made him miss alot in the first and second round and showed some good movement, but Foreman pressed the action, was busier and landed more. Just because Frazier did better than expected does not mean he was winning.
     
  8. mcvey

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    In the Frazier Foreman thread that prompted this one you started off your breakdown of the fight as follows:

    1st breakdown. " 1,2,4,rds Frazier, 3rd close Foreman edged it"
    2nd breakdown." 2,4rds clear Frazier rds"
    3rd breakdown. "3rd rd clear Foreman,2rd clear Frazier,1&2 rds debateable"
    4th breakdown.1st rd ."Im open to it being a Foreman round,2nd rd Frazier 4th rd Frazier".

    Maybe if we continue long enough you will eventually score the fight as a shut out for the referee?:lol:
     
  9. mcvey

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    I gave the 4th to Foreman but it was the closest round imo and could arguably been even ,I can just about see someone giving it to Frazier as Swagdfadel and you do , my isssue is with Mongoose's scorecard which ,everytime I look on the original thread has changed.:huh
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    My opinion only really changed on the degree to which Foreman won 3. I went from "edged" to "clear"

    My socring has been consistent, I'm just open to Round 1 being a Foreman round. I never said I scored it personally for Foreman but I can accept that opinion from someone else. What's the problem with that?

    That 3rd breakdown doesn't make sense, I didn't write that. I never said the 2 round was debateable.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    It has not.
     
  12. mcvey

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    These are your words verbatim ,taken from that thread

    Your first breakdown.
    "I had Frazier winning rounds 1,2, and 4. 3 was close but Foreman edged it.

    2 and 4 were clear Frazier rounds. "
    Second breakdown.
    "Last time I watched it, I gave Frazier 1, 2, and 4. 1 is disputable, I know, but hard to give Foreman the round for getting clowned even if Frazier is fighting defensively"

    Third breakdown.
    Posted 31 minutes past 1. 9th Jan
    "Of the four completed rounds, I think 3 is a clear Foreman and 4 is a clear Frazier. 1 and 2 are debatable"
    If it doesnt make sense don't blame me, I didn't type it you did!:lol:

    If you can't remember what you wrote a couple of days ago, I don't give much credence to your scoring of a fight that happened several decades ago!

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  13. mcvey

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    Come on Mongoose I know you are on line.Respond!

    I'm up at 4.30 , going to bed now, so it's safe for you to venture out!:lol:
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    You wrote it totally wrong, so its no wander I didn't remember or really understand what you were claiming I said:

    "3rd rd clear Foreman,2rd clear Frazier,1&2 rds debateable"

    This total screw up makes it look like I'm claiming rounds are clear and debateable in the same sentence, not that my opinion was evolving during the course of discussion and I was attempting to encourage debate. Which still has not happened as you refuse to share the observations that influenced your scoring for some reason.

    "Of the four completed rounds, I think 3 is a clear Foreman and 4 is a clear Frazier. 1 and 2 are debatable"

    So no, you certainly typed that contradiction up there and not me.


    I could say the same thing about your inaccurate quoting, and its not like the last time any of us watched the fight was the day it happened.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    I just got online and was in the process of responding when you wrote that. If you want to pretend I'm scared of you and waiting for you to go to bed to respond, whatever helps you sleep at night. If you are going to bed when I'm typing, I would say us being in different time zones is probably the real reason.

    And your profile as of this time is reading "online" so I thank you for staying up, and giving me teh chance to respond while you were online.