Was Tszyu-Judah premature?

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  1. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he should have taken the 8 count. but he let his ego get the best of him. tried to get up like he was not but he was still dizzy.
     
  2. Malcolm

    Malcolm Active Member Full Member

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    How many times does this need to be said? The Ref had NO CHOICE, the rules state if you get up then fall back down it's an automatic stoppage. It's like saying 'I think the Ref stopped it too early. Had he given him 15 seconds to stand up instead of 10 he would have been fine to continue."
    Nobody to blame but Zab.
     
  3. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I admit my ignorance in stating that i didn't know of that rule. Really it says exactly that :!: ?

    But... so, according to this rule, Bradley should have been stopped in the first round against Provodnikov? He got up, and then he backflipped :huh

    This rule is dangerous! And i don't think it's really fair and balanced: what matters is that someone is stably enough standing at the 10th count, you can dance the polka in the meantime.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Problem is, it wasn't called a knockdown, wich it clearly was... and it could have been a KO if it had been ruled correctly.

    "That's why I never fight in the US", would Ward say :!:
     
  5. Scar

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    When you get up and go down again by yourself it's an automatic stoppage.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Zab's post-fight victory celebrations certainly were. He was acting like a complete lunatic in there. Tszyu hit him so hard he actually thought he'd won the fight. lol
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

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    Hard to believe that was back in 2001... A great year for the sport!
     
  8. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he could have possibly beat the count if he had taken his time.

    I'm pretty sure it's actually in the rules though that the ref has to stop the fight if a fighter falls down twice from the same knockdown. Good stoppage, regardless.
     
  9. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I might be remembering this wrong but I think the ref had his back turned when Bradley fell down the 2nd time.
     
  10. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley wasn't officially knocked down there though
     
  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't even think it was his ego, I think it was the punch. It knocked any sense he might have had out of him, he didn't know what he was doing.
     
  12. BigSwole

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    :lol:exactly this
     
  13. Tancred

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  14. tennis

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    Felt it deserved a rematch because a peak Judah should beat him easily

    Great great punch though
     
  15. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rules state it is an automatic stoppage when a fighter chicken-dances