Greatest overall: Froch or Calzaghe

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    And i don't mean aprons

    H2H - Calzaghe would school him
    Resume - Froch's resume destroys Joes

    Who was the Greater?
     
  2. DSG496

    DSG496 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say JC, because he went undefeated, and arguably beat better opposition to win his belt in the first place,

    if I was to pick who id pay to see fight though I'd chose froch everyday.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch accomplished more than JC and has had the greater career.
    Not saying Froch has more talent no, just a greater set of *****.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Clazaghe never wanted no part of any rematches. I have to go with Froch. More of a legend in my book.
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Veit would disagree with you D
     
  6. KelandBeave

    KelandBeave Fab 4 Full Member

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    Joe was the better fighter but Froch was willing to fight the best.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if calzaghe had fought frochs resume, then people who say currently froch, would now say calzaghe.


    if froch had fought calzaghes resume, they would think much less of him and go with calzaghe.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    aha Veit, king of 4-6 rounders who somehow got a world title shot. and then another title shot against the same person and same title and same boxing body.
     
  9. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe. He was the better of the two and I don't think Froch's resume is really much better tbh.
     
  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Froch fought the hardest fights available time and time again. He risked getting beaten or looking like sh it. He had the cojones to step into fights where he was 50/50 or even less

    Thats massive. Joe had fights with Darius Roy and Bernard there. They never happened. If Joe had even half Carl's cojones you can bet your ass they would have found a way to have happened
     
  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's like saying Carl has fights with Stevenson and Kovalev there. I don't think it's fair to expect Joe to go up to 175 but not Froch. They both fought the best guys in their division.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you expect joe to go to LHW and fight 2 fortysomethings first,, we understand.

    that's not going to happen, thugh he might fight someone prime.
     
  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "I'd like to fight Calzaghe, probably next year after a couple of fights for the British title," said Froch.

    "That would be an outrageous win because Calzaghe's a good fighter, a very strong fighter, he's been around a few years, and I just feel I've got exactly what you need to beat him." - Carl Froch at 13-0

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3673602.stm

    At this point, Carl Froch wasn't even the British SMW champion.

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    "Froch will have to work like I have done to establish myself on the world scene," - Joe Calzaghe

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3698536.stm

    After these words where Calzaghe dismissed Carl Froch, Calzaghe went on to fight:-

    Kabery Salem
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    "Then when Ashira walked out I almost choked on my cocoa. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Baby Jake Matlala.

    "I have come to expect Joe to pick on easy targets,"

    I believe Calzaghe knows that isn't that hard a job.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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    "Why doesn't Joe get bold and call me out? Like I said before, perhaps he knows what I do: that I will smoke his boots, I will end his career.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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    "Bully's don't call out the real big boys. They like to have things stacked in their favour, they want it all on their own terms. That's why when the going gets tough they run home to their daddies."

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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    "I know what to do to beat Calzaghe,.......I don't think Calzaghe will fight me unless I put a meaningful title on the line but if I get one of the major belts he could not swerve me. - Carl Froch

    "Carl will prove himself to be the best fighter in the country bar none. I truly believe he will knock Calzaghe out." - Fat Mick

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5023478.stm

    Froch hoped for a Calzaghe fight, when Calzaghe just beaten Jeff Lacy.

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    WBO rankings at this point stood like:-

    Champ: Joe Calzaghe
    1. Dennis Inkin
    2. Lucian Bute
    3. Carl Froch

    Calzaghe never fought any of the three closest ranked fighters.

    "Joe says he's looking to make the most money possible from his next fight,........ Given the options open to him, that must mean fighting me. It certainly wouldn't mean someone like Inkin. - Carl Froch.

    "I am a proper challenger. I am the best in the division and politics shouldn't stop us meeting. It would be an exciting battle before I
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    - Froch

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6545105.stm

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    "Soon he will have no choice but to
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    or fight me, then we will see what kind of man he is"
    - Carl Froch

    "If he is a proud and strong man and a warrior, which I believe he is, he should step in the ring with me and we will put on a great British fight. - Carl Froch

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6390425.stm

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    "I consider myself world class now," the Nottingham fighter added. "I am on Joe's trail at the moment and I have already said I am willing to step up to light-heavyweight.

    "There are other fights out there for me - Jurgen Breahmer and Christian Sannavia - but Joe Calzaghe is the big one for me."
    - Carl Froch

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7085122.stm

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    "My argument is not will Joe Calzaghe fight me because maybe I don't want to fight Joe Calzaghe,"

    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe#ixzz1zgEGGoiD

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    "He wants a pay day and I'm not going to give him one as I don't like the guy." - Joe Calzaghe

    It would be a comfortable fight, I think I'd knock the guy out. - Joe Calzaghe

    "And his comments that he'll knock me out? Joe Calzaghe doesn't knock anyone out these days, he slaps for 12 rounds." - Carl Froch

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7779542.stm

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    "I dont think that fight will ever happen now, especially as Calzaghe's lifestyle was recently exposted......

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    I really dont care if he does come out of retirement or not," - Carl Froch

    http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

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    "I wanted the challenge and he didn't. End of story - Carl Froch

    http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

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    "He won a title that I gave up and hasn't stopped *****ing about everybody," - Joe Calzaghe

    "Because he's not making as much money and not getting on T.V I think he's bitter against the whole world. He's like a spoilt little bloody *****. I don't mind saying that, either, that's okay, keep that in there, he'll like that one." - Joe Calzaghe

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/weblog/news.php?p=22897&more=1
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Calzaghe resume > Froch resume

    ...it just is.
     
  15. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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