Bermane Stiverne vs. Deontay Wilder speculation & discussion

yes i had time to study some tapes on him and the kid is flawed he struggled with a journeyman (forgot his name)and got a lucky shot he was losing on points and he has been badly hurt by a bum

stiverne has never impressed me

 

yeah, that's fair.

 

can't force anyone to do anything, and would prefer it if he didnt make it official either way, the guy isn't exactly a picks guru.

 

Wilder to win by KO

 

a fighter named ____ struggled with a journeyman and was ____ hurt by a bum could apply to many good and great fighters, including .... well, you know.

 

:rofl
If he was MVC he would had already talked about how great Floyd is by now....right:think
:smoke

 

who has stiverne beat other then chris ?

 

His record is thin, but he has skills. I understand that you can't detect skills because you base things off who-beat-who. That's fine. You have a certain kinship with "bailey".

 

Good ****ysis, Sugar. I can't argue with you assessment. I personally believe it is a pick ‘em fight for the reasons you mention. What is interesting is you keep hearing about Wilder’s chin being suspect. Why is that? Has he been rocked? Has this come out in sparring? Generally, where there is smoke there is fire. I’m going to go out on a limb and say Wilder is exposed. Stiverne stops him in the middle rounds.

 

My ****ysis is Stiverne by early KO. Wilder has poor defense, he windmills, and he's not good at using his reach.

 

I think this will be a fixed fight unfortunately.


Wilder will win.

 

I agree. I've only watched him vs Arreola, but Stiverne seems very poised and calm in the ring - good balance and reflexes. Looks completely different from all the stumbling brutes that make up most of the division. Still not sure he can beat Wilder - Stiverne is a pretty small guy after all if you take away the flab.

 

No, even if he manages to knock Stiverne out he'll still be the same flawed fighter. Not much will change, he'll always be a KO waiting to happen.

 

22" thighs for a heavyweight as tall as Terrell is thin but Wilder has 18" thighs, 18"! That's mad.

Lewis had 26" thighs, Marciano at 5'10" and 185lbs had 22" thighs. Hell I'm 5'5" and weight 138lbs and I have 22.5 inch thighs.

Just checked Lewis had 18" calves, Lewis calves are the same size as Wilders thighs. :scaredas: